Got my booster yesterday and feel like absolute crap. I'm sure they've injected me with 40,000 Kopites & Geordie scruffs all singing, jumping, flag waving knobheads.
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This is a terrible take. Not everybody goes to pubs and gigs, so by introducing mask wearing in some situations, you reduce the transmission, but not eliminate it.
roydo
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Not sure if I am reading this stance properly, so forgive me if I have misread it.
So you wont wear a mask in a shop, cos the Government, (so far) havent obliged you to wear one in the pub? Seems utterly weird if thats the case.
If the situation is severe enough to require a mask mandate, it's severe enough to ban hospitality.
As you say, they won't do the latter due to the financial impact, but they do the former to put on the veneer of 'doing something' even though it's about as effective as a chocolate teapot.
Whats the difference between this measure and air travel having had mask mandates while other areas haven't?
Masks are a hindrance to hospitality in a way that they are not on public transport or shopping facilities, so surely the goal in not including hospitality is to keep some sort of life going to keep people sane. If you bring masks in for public transport you may still break several chains of infection without full on restrictions so I'm not sure the 'all or nothing' argument works.
Eh? No. I'm saying that if the situation is so dire that they're enforcing mask mandates to stop transmission, then you don't keep pubs/concerts going at all, nevermind without a mask mandate.
Mask mandates aren't normal. It shouldn't be considered as normal. It's an emergency measure - and something is either an emergency or it bloody isn't.
4737carlin
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Your standard anti mask idiot, either no good at maths, history or social responsibility.... good chance all 3
I'm not sure on that first one. I think that the situation actually isn't that severe at all - they're overplaying it but that's to stop it, or attempt to stop it, becoming more severe.
I usually wear a mask in the shop unless I happen to forget but that hasn't happened loads. I don't take loads of trains but I've been iffy with that I'll admit. But it won't hurt me to do it, but I'm gonna do it on the proviso I don't have to arse around with one going to the pub at Xmas, or that my mates who I've hardly seen for 2 years can come into the country in a few weeks etc.
I dunno, it's all crap, every country, I'm sick of it.
People who are very worried about covid still need to go to buy food. But no one is forced to go to the pub etc.
I personally think this is all being exagerrated anc have no concerns with being out and about but others do. If you are so concerned you probably shouldn't be going to events or out for the night. And you definitely shouldn't be complaining about people going out and having fun.
But equally if wearing a mask for 15 mins in the shop makes people who are uncomfortable feel more comfortable, then that seems a fair trade off.
Sounds like he'll have a lot of naked customers if he's not going to force them to wear their macks!
Nah, your playing fast and loose with consent and rights mate, while wanting to have your cake and eat it. Face covering is less invasive and you wouldn't do it but happy enough for someone to be injected against their will, i dont think you see of really understand the ethic of it beyond the practical implications. The same people mandating the vaccines for the grater good, you are chooseing to defy and not adhere to a less sever mandate, becasue you have the right to consent, the same right you wont recognise in others and are happy for them to be sanction by material deprivvation, thats hypocritey. Vaccine mandate the whole country - if people want to be citizens they have a moral responsibility for the greater good - or at least wear a face covering, its the same principle if you are going to be interacting with vulnerable people in wider society.
Well technically you cant stop being a Doctor you just keep your registration going, or go out on stress leave, you can always decide not to work for the NHS, there is always private healthcare & practice and the whole world is looking for Doctors & other HCP's.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
But you said you wont wear one in a shop now. Cos hospitality is unaffected. Like I said, I may have misread your stance.
In that case, masks mandates should stay in place forever, along with social distancing, to 'make people feel better'. It's no longer related to the actual situation and is a massive ongoing placebo.
If that's the 'new normal' and you've bought into that, God help us.
I was fine with it being voluntary - I did/do it. I understand it. I was fine with a mandate when it was a legit emergency situation at the height of all this when hospitality was shut down and we were in lockdowns etc.
But I simply do not understand a half arsed mandate which is neither here nor there.
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Then why not shut everywhere till it's fully safe to not wear a mask anywhere anymore, including shops, transport etc? The moment you think about 'but economy,' the emergency feel of this disappears...
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