Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Wow Merck were at 50%, Pfizer claiming 90% (Hospitalisation & Death).
www.thejournal.ie
Pfizer says Covid-19 pill cut risk of hospital admission and death by nearly 90%
The pharmaceutical company said it will ask international regulators to authorise its pill as soon as possible.
www.thejournal.ie
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I guess the point about the data is that data needs context for it to be useful. Much like just saying 10%, of what , how many , what increase , what time period etc are all bits of information that turn something from meaningless to useful.
So reporting base numbers without context may be reporting the numbers which is true, but without context in a headline sensational way , it's for clicks as well.
Just as an example of lack of context to data now (instead of 6 months ago) 40000 cases today. Does that mean 40000 seriously ill now, does it mean 40000 mildly / not Ill at all because of the jab. What proportion of these weekly numbers are becoming inpatients as a direct result of being one of the original case that week?
In fact daily numbers mean nothing by themselves. The key part that is never headlined is to what proportion is cases turning into hospital admissions. If that is increasing , then it's getting worse and we should be concerned. If it isn't then the daily cases can be as high as you want because the risk factor isn't increasing hospital wise.
That's the difference. Someone having covid doesn't matter, never has mattered. Same as someone having the flu doesn't matter, it's only when they get seriously ill does it matter.
Back in the summer when they were running numbers like a warning , it was only 1.5% of weekly cases going to hospital. Another big factor missing from the data being flatly reported is what proportion isn't vaccinated compared to who is vaccinated. Again that makes a huge difference to the data. If the daily cases increasing were in vaccinated people, then the vaccine works and there is less worry. If largely the hospital cases were unvaccinated, then again less concern because they refused to get it.
Data is meaningless without context. It's useless without meaning
Trying to avoid cross contamination of hospital patients seems really difficult, particularly when near capacity
Yorkshire, where this ER doctor works, has consistently had some fo the highest rates of Covid. I keep on thinking that st some point all the natural acquired immunity will start to make a difference to the workload but sadly it hasn’t happened yet and the recent ONS data suggests they are experiencing rising cases again
Yorkshire, where this ER doctor works, has consistently had some fo the highest rates of Covid. I keep on thinking that st some point all the natural acquired immunity will start to make a difference to the workload but sadly it hasn’t happened yet and the recent ONS data suggests they are experiencing rising cases again
Trying to avoid cross contamination of hospital patients seems really difficult, particularly when near capacity
Yorkshire, where this ER doctor works, has consistently had some fo the highest rates of Covid. I keep on thinking that st some point all the natural acquired immunity will start to make a difference to the workload but sadly it hasn’t happened yet and the recent ONS data suggests they are experiencing rising cases again
If only we'd have built some 'Nightingale' hospitals (To huge public fanfare) specifically designed for Covid patients
What the hell happened there?
There are decent economic reason for US businesses to require vaccines (like many do for flu) such as fewer sick days taken by employees and lower health insurance costs
Iirc staffing was the issue.
Tbh I think given the multiple issues that covid patients can have (eg pregnant and covid positive) I‘d imagine the Nightingale hospitals would introduce some logistical issues all by themselves.
Investment in the NHS overall so bed pressures are lessened would presumably be more of a solution for both covid and other issues.
Yet vaccination rate for it is around 50%.
I suspect that was the reasoning behind Tyson Food’s mandate. They sure didn’t seem to give a damn about their staff falling like flies pre vaccine.
Covid vaccine mandate led to 96 percent of Tyson workers getting the shot, company says
The company based in Springdale, Arkansas, said the number of its 120,000 workers who have been vaccinated has nearly doubled since it announced its mandate on Aug. 3.
www.nbcnews.com
Twice as Many Workers Died of COVID at Tyson Foods Than Other Meatpackers
According to information from the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, over 12,000 Tyson Foods workers contracted COVID-19 with 38 dying from the virus.
www.newsweek.com
Another one that got wrapped up in politics unfortunately
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Just curious, does anyone know what happened with Merck and a COVID vaccine?Wow Merck were at 50%, Pfizer claiming 90% (Hospitalisation & Death).
Pfizer says Covid-19 pill cut risk of hospital admission and death by nearly 90%
The pharmaceutical company said it will ask international regulators to authorise its pill as soon as possible.
Always thought they were a global leader in developing vaccines
Disagree with this tbh.
Think that cases numbers do matter as even if they don’t end up in hospital themselves, there exists the chance they can pass it onto someone else who either through health conditions/unvaccinated/bad luck isn’t as fortunate. If there is more virus circulating there is more chance that it finds those who are vulnerable.
They also matter for managing hospital capacity - more Covid positive patients, even if they are in hospital for something else, mean more separate wards to treat them and more complex juggling to avoid cross contamination of both patients and staff.
There is also the issue of long Covid, a case that might not need immediate hospital might still need long term health resources to deal with the after effects.
Not a problem
when I saw reports of the rates I initially wondered if it was related to half term but that graph seems to indicate we had a slowing down /drop prior . So I’m taking that as hopefully positive news.
Trying to avoid cross contamination of hospital patients seems really difficult, particularly when near capacity
Yorkshire, where this ER doctor works, has consistently had some fo the highest rates of Covid. I keep on thinking that st some point all the natural acquired immunity will start to make a difference to the workload but sadly it hasn’t happened yet and the recent ONS data suggests they are experiencing rising cases again
Yep, under hospital conditions I really don't envy the juggling act the staff have had to do with moving patients from one ward to another then the worry if other patients have contracted the virus when one who tests negative upon arrival can then test positive. Then it also potentially takes a space away for someone else.
When the crap hits the fan and your right in the middle of Crap Street, there's some unreal people who really work with the sole aim of making you better, regardless of the risk of their own health. I've seen it when it gets overloaded and it's at breaking point, the pressure on them is absolutely insane.
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