Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Anyone offerd a choice who was informed about it and who are over-65 would swerve the AZ jab

Just looking at the figures on the roll out of the vaccine on the Island of Ireland.

Isn't that much difference between the two jurisdictions considering NI has had three vaccines for an additional month compared to the Republics two and the differing spacing out policy between the first and second Jabs difference by the NHS and HSE.

N.I.: 204,065

Republic: 147,700

 

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I dont blame them.

Each national body in the EU will respind in the coming week. I expect all but the most desperate to roll it out in a targeted fashion.

As things stand and considering a targeted approach it looks like the only feasible vaccinations for developing world distribution are AZ and the J&J vaccines assuming approval.

That said there was an article by the UN last year that took the position of the cold chain requirements of Pfizer and Moderna offering an infrastructure development opportunity across the developing nations. It's a nice idea but logic would suggest that that vaccine development will eat up any funds available - unless the private sector steps in.

 

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COVID-19 vaccine could revolutionize cold storage around the world

Roll out of the COVID-19 vaccine is an opportunity to create a new, global cold chain that will be of use beyond the crisis.

www.unenvironment.org

 

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Anyone offerd a choice who was informed about it and who are over-65 would swerve the AZ jab

I don't know about that, Dave. There will be many that have heard that mRNA vaccines are a new innovation that has not been used before and will view it with some fear of what-ifs and turning into Mr. Hyde!

 

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I don't know about that, Dave. There will be many that have heard that mRNA vaccines are a new innovation that has not been used before and will view it with some fear of what-ifs and turning into Mr. Hyde!

After having the Pfizer Jab, me and my new third leg would strongly disagree “woof” (excuse me), with this!

 

[BlueStevie35]

Anyone offerd a choice who was informed about it and who are over-65 would swerve the AZ jab

Anyone who is offered the AZ jab when ready and declines to wait for another jab that could be weeks/months away would be seen to be highly reckless and endangering of their health

 

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Anyone who is offered the AZ jab when ready and declines to wait for another jab that could be weeks/months away would be seen to be highly reckless and endangering of their health

Or simply allergic to gnats piss ?

 

[Wizard]

Anyone offerd a choice who was informed about it and who are over-65 would swerve the AZ jab

So it's better to take the Pfizer one for which there is no evidence on how it works with a 12 week break between doses than the AZ one for which there is some evidence it works in over 65's? Don't think that makes much sense

 

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"A WHO spokeswoman, Margaret Harris, said she wanted to appeal to people in the UK, telling them: “You can wait” because ensuring equitable global distribution is “clearly morally the right thing to do”."

What a clown - sound Margaret well you pay the mortgages of all those furloughed / out of work whilst we wait and you have a deal.

The WHO, unfortunately, are beholden to political influence and therefore are basically a complete irrelevance in this discussion. It's like the Pope calling for peace during a World War - all very nice to do, but actual reality gets in the way.

The UK government will, correctly, emphasise the vaccination of their own populace, like any country would do. Charity begins at home. I'm sure we'll be supplying massive amounts when we have excess.

On another note, 600k vaccines in one day - staggering achievement. Four weeks ago I was expecting that to be around the weekly amount at best given the Tory track record.

 

[Wizard]

The WHO, unfortunately, are beholden to political influence and therefore are basically a complete irrelevance in this discussion. It's like the Pope calling for peace during a World War - all very nice to do, but actual reality gets in the way.

The UK government will, correctly, emphasise the vaccination of their own populace, like any country would do. Charity begins at home. I'm sure we'll be supplying massive amounts when we have excess.

On another note, 600k vaccines in one day - staggering achievement. Four weeks ago I was expecting that to be around the weekly amount at best given the Tory track record.

Not far off 1% of the population in a day is very impressive

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Interesting watching a documentary on the London Plague in 1665 - when it reached Cambridge the Uni sent all its students home to try prevent any further spread.

Funny how strategy in controlling this sort of thing never changes 4 centuries later!

 

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Covid-19: Captain Sir Tom Moore in hospital with coronavirus

His daughter says he was taken to hospital after requiring help with his breathing.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 674 deaths were announced today, down 124 on yesterday and down 81 on last Sunday. 563 deaths were in English hospitals, down 118 on yesterday and down 60 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 869.57

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 587 deaths were announced today, down 613 on yesterday and down 23 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 1174.14

For the 60 day cut off, 632 deaths were announced today, down 677 on yesterday and down 3 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls very slightly to an even 1276

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Covid-19: Captain Sir Tom Moore in hospital with coronavirus

His daughter says he was taken to hospital after requiring help with his breathing.

www.bbc.co.uk

You would have thought he would have had the vaccine - mind you at 100 I imagine the vaccine could only do so much.