Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

Nearly 600,000 first jabs given yesterday and about 10,000 second jabs. If this doesn’t give people a positive feeling then I feel sorry for you. ......,

it doesn't, pete

If you want to look at it properly, then we've vaccinated 10000 people yesterday. It is a massive improvement on no vaccinations, but it is a number that will have to go up considerably over the next few weeks.

 

[grandjoeblue]

He‘s 100, if he wants to go to the Caribbean then good luck to him, and I hope he had a great time......

Its mental that people are using this to make a point. When he travelled you were allowed to travel and he went somewhere with the lowest rates in the world.

Hes also 100 so hes likely to die soon anyway. 2 weeks in a place like that surrounded by his family is probably a tad more memberable than a few extra weeks stuck in a care home.

 

[peteblue]

3% to 10%, but in terms or real people about 50k in the difference was quite surprised by that with the Republic having the obvious disadvantage of not having AZ.

It sounds as though the ROI are doing better than the rest of the EU, but the big difference will come in the next few months when the U.K. sends its extra vaccines over to you.....

 

[Toast]

I think that that town in North Somerset has a higher number of bell ends than the average in the area.

The tactic of putting the nicest members of staff on the door didn’t work.

Proper nice arl girls getting told to F Off just isn’t right is it.

 

[davek]

So it's better to take the Pfizer one for which there is no evidence on how it works with a 12 week break between doses than the AZ one for which there is some evidence it works in over 65's? Don't think that makes much sense

There is no evidence that the over-65 group will do well after two spaced out AZ jabs. NONE.

The Pfizer manufacturer merely states that no testing on efficacy for 3 months has been done and so cant say either way.

 

[peteblue]

it doesn't, pete

If you want to look at it properly, then we've vaccinated 10000 people yesterday. It is a massive improvement on no vaccinations, but it is a number that will have to go up considerably over the next few weeks.

Do me a favour and take your absolutely woeful negativity somewhere else. Everyone who gets a first inoculation gets a date for their second at the same time. The U.K. is improving on its numbers all the time and everyone who has had a first jab will receive the second. Your continuous attempt to do down the efforts of the NHS at this moment is becoming tiresome.....

 

[davek]

Anyone who is offered the AZ jab when ready and declines to wait for another jab that could be weeks/months away would be seen to be highly reckless and endangering of their health

Not if they are old and in lockdown and shileding. Far better to wait until the situation becomes cleaer. Vaccines cant be used like sweets. They cant be tried one after the other when one become available, so best wait until the data is in...and that should have been in by now. I wonder why it isn't for AZ?

 

[peteblue]

There is no evidence that the over-65 group will do well after two spaced out AZ jabs. NONE.

The Pfizer manufacturer merely states that no testing on efficacy for 3 months has been done and so cant say either way.

Tough, if your EU puts the brakes on Pfizer then you will only be given the gnats piss.....

 

[roydo]

The tactic of putting the nicest members of staff on the door didn’t work.

Proper nice arl girls getting told to F Off just isn’t right is it.

Nah, not on at all that.

I reckon if someone kicked off in the Portishead Sainsburys, other shoppers would help out. As for the Waitrose, well....

 

[Connor]

Did he ??
Missed that.

Captain Tom, 100, jets off to Barbados with a free flight from BA

Captain Sir Tom Moore smiled as he sat in a plane seat emblazoned with his name in a picture shared to Twitter ahead of his trip to sunny Barbados - courtesy of British Airways.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[tsubaki]

Do me a favour and take your absolutely woeful negativity somewhere else. Everyone who gets a first inoculation gets a date for their second at the same time. The U.K. is improving on its numbers all the time and everyone who has had a first jab will receive the second. Your continuous attempt to do down the efforts of the NHS at this moment is becoming tiresome.....

haha

Pete - what I am calling for is that they get the first and second inoculation in a reasonable timeframe, one that is in line with the guidance issued by the manufacturer (in the Pfizer case, but also in terms of the AZ one which is 4-12 weeks). Getting more people to have a second dose means more people are vaccinated.

As for your NHS comments, feel free to print them onto one of the new Chinese testing kits before you use it.

 

[davek]

As things stand and considering a targeted approach it looks like the only feasible vaccinations for developing world distribution are AZ and the J&J vaccines assuming approval.

That said there was an article by the UN last year that took the position of the cold chain requirements of Pfizer and Moderna offering an infrastructure development opportunity across the developing nations. It's a nice idea but logic would suggest that that vaccine development will eat up any funds available - unless the private sector steps in.

AZ has always seemed to me to be talored to the third world: cheap and easy to use.

Only the UK in the developed world has seen fit to pass it for everyone.

 

[tsubaki]

Nah, not on at all that.

I reckon if someone kicked off in the Portishead Sainsburys, other shoppers would help out. As for the Waitrose, well....

dunno if this is the case in your region, but Waitrose are the only stores now down here where queues can be found - there was a huge one outside the Waitrose near Holland Park today

 

[davek]

Tough, if your EU puts the brakes on Pfizer then you will only be given the gnats piss.....

The gnats piss is ok for the under 65s.

 

[davek]

Just looking at the figures on the roll out of the vaccine on the Island of Ireland.

Isn't that much difference between the two jurisdictions considering NI has had three vaccines for an additional month compared to the Republics two and the differing spacing out policy between the first and second Jabs difference by the NHS and HSE.

N.I.: 204,065

Republic: 147,700

But but but the EU are rubbish at rolling vaccines out...and the UK is winning....