Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I don't post often, but I can't read this without saying thank you.
 
I blame the government for not having any coherent plan whatsoever and I blame our advisors for not having any solutions other than restrictions and lockdowns.

It was understandable to be in this position in March , April and May but its not good enough heading into November tomorrow.

There's been no clever thinking from anyone.

Of course the government has to take some of the blame with their tardy responses and mixed messages (eat out to help out etc.), but I put this more down to the people. It's not hard to understand there is something out there and that the more you mix the faster we will reach this point.

We are on the verge of a national lockdown with rising deaths and they STILL don’t understand. Going into ASDA today I saw a bloke not 1 metre out of the inner entrance his mask was down and then as soon as he was out properly spat on the side of the wall. If I didn't want to catch something I would have throttled him there and then.

Loads of people just stop in the middle of entrances and exits bottlenecks causing you to get way closer than you would like. Honestly it's easy for me to stay at home as I get so cheesed off going out mixing with people with little or no comprehension I'm saving myself a potential stretch in prison.
 
So preservation of life should or shouldn't be based on age? What if this virus was killing 0-5 year old children, would the view be the same?

What if it impacted the 20-25 year old bracket?

In every single aspect of life, things which befall younger people is seen as more tragic than that which befalls the elderly. That’s how it always has been. It’s not controversial to say this. People should be protected as much as possible; in particular those who need it most. But at the expense of everyone else? I have a responsibility to my fellow humans but they also have a responsibility to protect themselves.

And here’s my point- protect ourselves and each other to the best of our ability without (and I stress obviously in my opinion) negatively effecting the lives of the majority or ourselves in too great a way. That just makes no sense to me. I should support lockdowns even if it means I lose my income, can’t afford to pay my bills? Feel suicidal? Honestly that just makes no sense to me.

I know I’m in a losing position as in the immediate present, lockdown will save lives. It’s akin to banning all cars tomorrow- road traffic accidents will drop dramatically. But long term, is it the right thing? Well I don’t think so and don’t expect you or anyone else to be able to answer that. But I’ll say this, when this vaccine arrives it needs to be mandatory for the “vulnerable” population otherwise this really is all for nothing.
 
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At my school very posh school in Spain, everything was fine. All the children had devices and just as importantly the space to learn in their houses. Parents were also working from home so could troubleshoot IT problems. Funnily enough, it was us teachers who live in tiny flats with dodgy Internet that were struggling much more than the children.

Speaking to mates from my old primary school in Stockbridge Village they told a very different story. They did what they could in very difficult circumstances. It's all well and good enshrining things in law about online education but it won't happen unless you give teachers and families the resources.

And that’s the important point I think. It will be the poorer that get shafted again in all thIs and all people will do is shrug because there’s no solution.
 
And that’s the important point I think. It will be the poorer that get shafted again in all thIs and all people will do is shrug because there’s no solution.

Absolutely. Unfortunately, the solution isn't even as easy as giving each child on free school meals a new device. It's about undoing years, probably generations of neglect and the widening of inequality.
 
I blame the government for not having any coherent plan whatsoever and I blame our advisors for not having any solutions other than restrictions and lockdowns.

It was understandable to be in this position in March , April and May but its not good enough heading into November tomorrow.

There's been no clever thinking from anyone.

What is your solution to bringing down numbers?

Easy to deride people but if you haven't got a better solution then it's pointless.
 
Perhaps more lives will be saved by the expertise of our health specialists in hospitals than the projected numbers which seem to be writing anyone's chances off if they end up in hospital currently.

Compared to 6 months ago when they didn't have that knowledge

Apparently fatality rates for those hospitalised this time round are expected to be roughly half what they were in the first wave.

However, in the North-West, we're currently not far off ( ~85% ) having the same number of people in hospital with COVID as there were in the first wave. That's still rising and will, over the next few weeks exceed 4000 ( it was just over 2800 in the previous peak ).

Cases are dropping in Merseyside, but probably havn't peaked yet across the region, so there's expected to be a huge amount of pressure on local trusts in November which is already baked in. That might not lead to as many hospital deaths locally as in the first peak, but it's likely to be at least pretty close.
 
What is your solution to bringing down numbers?

Easy to deride people but if you haven't got a better solution then it's pointless.

A working test and trace app would be a good start. 89% of people don't isolate, if they policed that better that would have a big impact on the spread of cases. Hospital capacity could have been increased in under pressure areas.
 
I'll try anything.

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Vaccine is expected first quarter next year and it'll make a huge difference.
Yes of course, but that’s still nearly 5-6 months away at the earliest.
This time next year and beyond Covid will be the least of our problems if we continue like this.
 
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