Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I can well believe that Kids cope well in structure and routine, its stressful for them to leave the usual whether that be home or school. Some kids cope well in adversity other kids cope differently and need different support.

The other thing is the subliminal anxiety and stressful changes kids are exposed to. Kids have no filter and you can imagine some of the stories in schools around Covid, kids arent naturally allowed interact, separated at play , distance, washing your hands etc.

It all leads to subliminal insecurity and anxiety for some kids. Home is safe, you can understand that. For kids in my opinion there are so many stresses both obvious and subliminal around at the moment, that makes more sensitive or emotionally intelligent kids very stressed and anxious. Its all new in terms of their ongoing development, they are going through something now at a formative stage none of us have had to encounter growing up.

Holloween being cancelled and narrative soon around being Xmas being canceled wont help.

You also have to factor in what some of the crazy parents have been ramming down their kids throats too, which only reinforces this.
 
Are the schools staying open during this new lockdown? If so what's the point as the virus will carry on spreading in schools hospitals and care homes.
According to the rumours they will stay open despite the fact that that these kickstarted the second wave.
Think they
I can well believe that Kids cope well in structure and routine, its stressful for them to leave the usual whether that be home or school. Some kids cope well in adversity other kids cope differently and need different support.

The other thing is the subliminal anxiety and stressful changes kids are exposed to. Kids have no filter and you can imagine some of the stories in schools around Covid, kids arent naturally allowed interact, separated at play , distance, washing your hands etc.

It all leads to subliminal insecurity and anxiety for some kids. Home is safe, you can understand that. For kids in my opinion there are so many stresses both obvious and subliminal around at the moment, that makes more sensitive or emotionally intelligent kids very stressed and anxious. Its all new in terms of their ongoing development, they are going through something now at a formative stage none of us have had to encounter growing up.

Holloween being cancelled and narrative soon around being Xmas being canceled wont help.
I've got a five year old. The other day he said "I haven't got the virus in me have I?". And "when the virus has gone I can get close to nanny."

Mostly, he is OK and as he's so young he probably thinks this is fairly normal.

I usually hate Halloween but it's been a good focus for making stuff, drawing, pumpkin carving etc.

Christmas will be similar, making decorations and getting the tree up earlier etc.

Luckily the parks are still open so on a dry day we head there. Really hoping they don't lock them up again.
 
SAGE have been advising a national lockdown for several weeks now, which when you look across Europe is kind what we should have done, as every country has seen an enormous second spike during autumn. Yet again, we're taking the grace period we enjoy from being a few weeks behind the curves seen in mainland Europe and wasting it completely.
Can't end furlough whilst in lockdown.
 
It’s something I’ve been really conscious of with my 7 year old. It’s been a really tough year and she’s grown up a lot quicker than she would have done I think. You can’t shield them from everything and she found the transition from lockdown to back to school really tough. there were changes to her behaviour, she stopped sleeping, separation anxiety. Lots of things you would expect.

Shes inquisitive and bright and was asking a lot of questions about topical stuff (including COVID, cancer, the plague, BLM, BREXIT) but also stuff like Father Christmas and God.

I didn’t really expect to be having those kind of conversations with her so soon. She handled it all really well but in my mind she’s very young to be dealing with those things, particularly all at once.

She seems like a really emotionally intelligent bright little girl mate. Its good shes talking to you and asking those questions instead of internalising them and becoming, sad, angry upset or anxious. I think another poster saif thier little girl broke out in a rash and that can be the psychosomatic effect of stress.

In my experience and i work with a bit with kids going through, loss, change, enforced separation and the emotional impact of that - in what i do. When kids feel insecure you will notice two thing, either they will get really bold or really clingy. When children are struggling they will always show it their behavior. Essentially, two things make kids feel safe. Boundaries and nurturing.

Kids get bold, because subconsciously they want to reminded that their are rules in place to keep them safe, someone cares about them and that their is limit on what is allowed to keep them safe - bold kids want to made feel safe by being brought with a rule. Other kids become clingy, they are looking for close contact, nurturing and to be told that everything is going to be ok, loads of hugs, silly questions they know the answer to, wanting to not sleep alone, some regressive behavior (not to be worried about), speech impediments, forgetting to dress themselves, nightmares or bed wetting - reverting to a younger age to look for additional comfort - its 99 time sout of 100 tempory and the result of looking for support in a worrying time of change, loss and adjustment.

The above in my experience are very normal and not to minimize what kids are going through at the moment, its really unnatural and goes again their developmental needs. When you think about the reaction, it makes perfect sense, death number s on TV, everyone needing to be kept safe, being naturally separated from people to keep themselves and others safe - exposure to stressed adults they look to - to look after them like teachers etc, not being able or allowed to play with others - play is so important. Its all leads to an atmosphere of uncertainty, loss change, stress worry, and kids arent like us they absorb and react to that in a very different way.

What you daughter is reacting sounds very normal to me in what i see with kids dealing with in terms of stress, loss, change and adjustment and the support they need around that. If its any reassurance there is strong research to show that children who deal with adversity in their formative years, grow into more resilient adults then those who dont when they are younger.
 
This was interesting on BBC yesterday.
2019 was a particularly light year so we could have probably expected a jump this year without covid.
I also read that our hospital bed capacity per 100k is around a third of that in Germany.
I think the major issue is that hospital capacity, usually strained in winter anyway, is going to be badly stretched. Part of that is due to knowing the illness better and better survival chances through treatment. A consequence of that is that the bed stays occupied.
Knowing the cyclical nature of viruses, you would have thought a more robust winter plan would be in place.
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According to the rumours they will stay open despite the fact that that these kickstarted the second wave.
Think they

I've got a five year old. The other day he said "I haven't got the virus in me have I?". And "when the virus has gone I can get close to nanny."

Mostly, he is OK and as he's so young he probably thinks this is fairly normal.

I usually hate Halloween but it's been a good focus for making stuff, drawing, pumpkin carving etc.

Christmas will be similar, making decorations and getting the tree up earlier etc.

Luckily the parks are still open so on a dry day we head there. Really hoping they don't lock them up again.

Good stuff mate, i cant emphaise the importance of emotional outlets enough. Helping them make sense of stuff in a very simple concrete way is important. But allowing them to blow of steam to exercise and play is really good outlet for stress and anxiety. I have some resources knocking around on resources for explaining Covid to children ill see can i find it and post it.

Kids often need two things information and support.
 
I dont buy gyms/restaurants etc have caused the spread.

Numbers were fine until they let uni's back open then it went tits up. Should have just given the uni's grants rather than the furloughing of the rest of the economy.

And ZERO evidence of barbers spreading covid so keep them open as essential Boris you mop headed fool.
 
This was interesting on BBC yesterday.
2019 was a particularly light year so we could have probably expected a jump this year without covid.
I also read that our hospital bed capacity per 100k is around a third of that in Germany.
I think the major issue is that hospital capacity, usually strained in winter anyway, is going to be badly stretched. Part of that is due to knowing the illness better and better survival chances through treatment. A consequence of that is that the bed stays occupied.
Knowing the cyclical nature of viruses, you would have thought a more robust winter plan would be in place.
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Comparison of mortality from the first wave with previous years in the last decade (and set to get even worse with the second wave):

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Some resources explaing Covid for Kids:

















 
London getting twitchy as they are about to go into tier 3, which means they think it's a full lockdown again.

They will shut all hospitality and non essential shops.
 
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