Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[PhilM]

the number of cases "barely changing" during the lockdown is a sign that its working - during the first national lockdown deaths spiked for a couple of months after it was brought in

The North West has been under Tier 3 the longest and look at the suspected r0 rate. Stricter restrictions in North East, Wales and Scotland look effective too.

Liverpool's COVID infection rates are also on the decline, whereas they're rising in most areas. So in layman's terms, restrictions do work.

Does missing/delaying a month of school really hamper development that much? It’s hardly like they’re near exam time right now. Seems a bit unnecessary to me to keep them open.

It'll allow more people to work from home if they have younger children, and it will improve the likelihood of allowing examinations. That's the logic, I suspect.

 

[zzr45]

We are probably where we were in late March. Do we want to replicate where we were during April? Will that make people happy?

I don’t know. Maybe I should just go for a long walk and be done with it?

 

[Neiler]

The North West has been under Tier 3 the longest and look at the suspected r0 rate. Stricter restrictions in North East, Wales and Scotland look effective too.

Liverpool's COVID infection rates are also on the decline, whereas they're rising in most areas. So in layman's terms, restrictions do work.


It'll allow more people to work from home if they have younger children, and it will improve the likelihood of allowing examinations. That's the logic, I suspect.

Some early data and research ive seen has shown that, that the tier systems most countries have implemented have seen a tangible impact on infection rates to draw early conclusions of effectiveness. The lowest levels see a gradual growth in the spread of infection, middle tiers see a stabilising/maintenance of the infection rate but not a drop with gradual growth, highest tiers bring down the infection rate.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Does missing/delaying a month of school really hamper development that much? It’s hardly like they’re near exam time right now. Seems a bit unnecessary to me to keep them open.

Have you got kids?

 

[Tramps_mate]

Unfortunately pubs are screwed for a long time. People just can't behave when drunk, also universities. Pictures from Nottingham on Thursday night show drinkers just can't behave or just be trusted.

Junior schools and high schools must stay open. Retail shops too.

This is never going to go away. There will always be someone with it to pass it around..

 

[Paris]

This government really is an absolute shambles. Instead of announcing a two week lockdown which would have incorporated the half term holiday, whilst cases were still low enough, they've delayed to the point where we're going to need a 4 week lockdown at the very least. Boris you're a charlatan, time to clear your desk, and take the other members of your two-bob cartel with you.

 

[coollino]

Really can't see them shutting non essential shops before Christmas. I reckon pubs, restaurants and gyms.

Then opening pubs a week before Christmas will be carnage. What a mess.

 

[COYBL25]

Have you got kids?

I was just going to post that.

My eldest lad became nocturnal during the last lockdown.

Plus it creates insurmountable child care problems for those that can’t work from home.

Grandparents and friends aren’t allowed to look after them and again it disproportionately affects those on low wages.

Kids need to be in school.

 

[Nymzee]

Have you got kids?

No, that’s why I asked the question.

I’ve also been in school once and could probably have skipped out on 6 months without any penalty to learning.

 

[Nymzee]

I was just going to post that.

My eldest lad became nocturnal during the last lockdown.

Plus it creates insurmountable child care problems for those that can’t work from home.

Grandparents and friends aren’t allowed to look after them and again it disproportionately affects those on low wages.

Kids need to be in school.

I wasn’t addressing the wider issues though; I asked purely for a learning point of view.

 

[tsubaki]

This government really is an absolute shambles. Instead of announcing a two week lockdown which would have incorporated the half term holiday, whilst cases were still low enough, they've delayed to the point where we're going to need a 4 week lockdown at the very least. Boris you're a charlatan, time to clear your desk, and take the other members of your two-bob cartel with you.

You forgot them and their mates slating Drakeford for doing exactly that.

 

[PhilM]

I was just going to post that.

My eldest lad became nocturnal during the last lockdown.

Plus it creates insurmountable child care problems for those that can’t work from home.

Grandparents and friends aren’t allowed to look after them and again it disproportionately affects those on low wages.

Kids need to be in school.

I agree with all that, but perversely the highlighted part is wrong. Exemptions were made to allow for childcare including, well especially, elderly grandparents.

So the generation who we’re trying to protect were almost expected to shoulder the childcare responsibility, which put them at an increased risk.

I’m not sure why it never actually received further questioning in the press.

 

[Tramps_mate]

No, that’s why I asked the question.

I’ve also been in school once and could probably have skipped out on 6 months without any penalty to learning.

We really struggled to get our 13 year old to return once they reopened. She got far too used to being at home.. and our 8 year old was really stressed, to the levels of making her ill. She had a terrible rash on her neck and face for about a month initially.

I think the younger kids up to 16; really must carry on at school. College and university I think are more able to understand and cope. But also universities are rife with the coronas..

To be honest I think society is knackered for a long long time with this. There's no easy way to fix it..

 

[Nymzee]

We really struggled to get our 13 year old to return once they reopened. She got far too used to being at home.. and our 8 year old was really stressed, to the levels of making her ill. She had a terrible rash on her neck and face for about a month initially.

I think the younger kids up to 16; really must carry on at school. College and university I think are more able to understand and cope. But also universities are rife with the coronas..

To be honest I think society is knackered for a long long time with this. There's no easy way to fix it..

But surely they’re used to have 6+ weeks off over Summer and however many for half-terms, Christmas etc. Is a 4 week block that bad for them? There’s lots of home learning being done now too.

 

[Tramps_mate]

I agree with all that, but perversely the highlighted part is wrong. Exemptions were made to allow for childcare including, well especially, elderly grandparents.

So the generation who we’re trying to protect were almost expected to shoulder the childcare responsibility, which put them at an increased risk.

I’m not sure why it never actually received further questioning in the press.

We utilise my mum twice a week but instead of her taking them to her house to feed etc, she now drops them at home after school with our eldest. My mum's not happy about lack of time with her grandkids but what can we do!??.