Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Also, no matter what the idiot announces at... whenever he can be arsed rolling out of bed, 4pm or 5pm or whatever... it's not a lockdown if the schools stay open, as that facilitates cross-household spread.

A lockdown without closing schools is completely, utterly pointless.

For some utterly bizarre reason, the government and even some scientists haven't cottoned on to the facts kids don't get sick from this but they still obviously spread the bloody thing.
 
The very definition of mendacious. How stupid do they think we are ?


Another criminal to add to the grotesques who need dealing with after this virus has run its course.

A trial and swift justice must be delivered on the class of murderers who actively left the population wide open to two deadly waves of a pandemic.
 
Also, no matter what the idiot announces at... whenever he can be arsed rolling out of bed, 4pm or 5pm or whatever... it's not a lockdown if the schools stay open, as that facilitates cross-household spread.

A lockdown without closing schools is completely, utterly pointless.

For some utterly bizarre reason, the government and even some scientists haven't cottoned on to the facts kids don't get sick from this but they still obviously spread the bloody thing.

Summed it all up in one sentence basically

I'd go as far as saying bin Universities off as well - If modern technology has done anything for us, it's allowed us to work remotely effectively
 
... haven't cottoned on to the facts kids don't get sick from this but they still obviously spread the bloody thing.

Actually, the vast majority of the evidence shows that infections in younger children reflect levels in the community rather than amplify levels. It's only really as they enter their teens that they spread it significantly.

I know reasoned arguments aren't as much fun as mindless rants, but there's a reasoned argument to be made for closing universities and colleges but leaving primary schools open. Secondary schools are a tougher call.
 
I'd go as far as saying bin Universities off as well - If modern technology has done anything for us, it's allowed us to work remotely effectively
Universities won’t be closed for one very simple reason: it would cause a mass exodus of potentially virus carrying students from the cities.

Secondary schools are a tougher call.
This is partly why in the DfE tiers secondary schools would go to partial openings (rotation) or full closure before primary schools will ever close.
 
Actually, the vast majority of the evidence shows that infections in younger children reflect levels in the community rather than amplify levels. It's only really as they enter their teens that they spread it significantly.

I know reasoned arguments aren't as much fun as mindless rants, but there's a reasoned argument to be made for closing universities and colleges but leaving primary schools open. Secondary schools are a tougher call.

Yes I know that's the evidence, but there's a slight problem with that. Well, no actually, many problems.

One, teachers exist. Two, parents exist, picking up kids. Three, receptionists and office staff exists, interacting with parents. Four, the load on public transport increases with schools open. etc. etc. etc. etc.

The evidence acknowledges one epidemiologically point about kids in school. And even that evidence is shaky - kids still spread the disease. It completely fails to recognise the periphery of the situation.

The point of a national lockdown is to "circuit break" the disease. You can't do that if you're half arsing it, which is what we've seen with this stupid tiered system.

Keeping schools open isn't an evidence-led decision; it's an economical one. Because it'd mean parents staying off work, or kids going to grandparents. But there's a simple answer to that - have people work from home, if they can't, don't work. Because it's supposed to be a lockdown ffs - and that's what I said; it's not a lockdown if kids stay in school.
 
Yes I know that's the evidence, but there's a slight problem with that. Well, no actually, many problems.

One, teachers exist. Two, parents exist, picking up kids. Three, receptionists and office staff exists, interacting with parents. Four, the load on public transport increases with schools open. etc. etc. etc. etc.

The evidence acknowledges one epidemiologically point about kids in school. And even that evidence is shaky - kids still spread the disease. It completely fails to recognise the periphery of the situation.

The point of a national lockdown is to "circuit break" the disease. You can't do that if you're half arsing it, which is what we've seen with this stupid tiered system.

Keeping schools open isn't an evidence-led decision; it's an economical one. Because it'd mean parents staying off work, or kids going to grandparents. But there's a simple answer to that - have people work from home, if they can't, don't work. Because it's supposed to be a lockdown ffs - and that's what I said; it's not a lockdown if kids stay in school.

Schools open isn't just economical. Its essential for ensuring kids aren't left behind. I dont understand how lightly people can just say, close all the schools.

If we want to be a country with any sort of social mobility then we need schools to be open. We already struggle enough with giving our young people the opportunities they deserve.
 
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