Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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I think schools are essential pretty much 99.9% of the time, but not that 0.1% of the time when we're locking down to stop the spread of a pandemic for 4 weeks.
Because that's not a lockdown if schools are open. Best way of explaining it is like locking every door and window of a house to stop burglars getting in but then deliberately leaving one wide open. You haven't locked down if you do that.
And yes actually, I'd suspend all elective surgery and have every single medical procedure discussed by phone to see if they can be delayed four weeks if at all possible. Because again, lockdown.
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If we are indeed about to lockdown
Then this tier system was a complete waste of time now wasn't it?
May work coming out of a lockdown to have it established already but these past 3 weeks were w complete waste of time if the government haven't even waited go see the results of such an idea.
This is all this is becoming now isn't it? Waste of time to end up in the same place they should have started with.
Then this tier system was a complete waste of time now wasn't it?
May work coming out of a lockdown to have it established already but these past 3 weeks were w complete waste of time if the government haven't even waited go see the results of such an idea.
This is all this is becoming now isn't it? Waste of time to end up in the same place they should have started with.
It was an experiment to save locking London down.
The first national lockdown happened as soon as London got battered. The second is the same.
It never had a prayer of working because it was unenforceable. Everything the government has done lately has been stupid; all just done to buy time and to be able to say they "did something" before they locked London down as part of a national lockdown.
Let's put it this way - say four weeks from now the infection rate in London is still massive but in Knowsley it's zero... do you think after the national lockdown London wil go on "Tier 3" and the north will be Tier 1?
Nah.
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That's all this lockdown is. A complete waste of time and a complete waste of money. It should have been done any time between September and the start of October, the middle at the very latest. For two weeks as Sage advised.
Fock Boris, fock the Tories and fock the people, mainly Boomers, who continue to vote for them. I'm seething.
Arguably, no. Even if were solely talking about the City of Liverpool region, arguably the restrictions have helped reduce the number of cases.
If you consider how long it took back in April and May for the death rates to fall, any short lock down (fire-break) will not cause an instantaneous reduction.
Deaths will continue to rise throughout a suggested lock-down be that two weeks or a month, but we will a reduction in cases in the short and medium term.
Starting at a lower infection rate, our r0 rate is predicted to be lower than other regions, will help reduce the rates even further, so it's far from a waste.
Without wanting to defend the government, we are seeing similar strategies in France and Germany, which would suggest this is not an isolated strategy.
Other countries may have been more effective and have spent far less on T&T with similar results, but that's not the primary issue here.
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Spray Mace, In Boris' Face, Dump body in shallow grave.
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And a lot of people are going to be so releaved to be able to escape the ordeal.
Hopefully, the slogan is Dont be a ponce, never vote tory once.
It really all boils down to no country or their advisors having any idea how to get out of this after seven months.
The Tier systems probably helped but it does now feel like we're chasing our tails again because they tried to avoid the inevitable.
I totally understand why, and don't want it to happen, but it's gonna happen anyway, and probably for a long period than would have been required had we locked down at the start of October for say, 2-3 weeks. Or done things like stop 1000s of students travelling around the country to go and live in grotty uni halls and houses.
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Fair enough, that's a consistent approach. Without knowing how much of an effect on R closing schools would have, it's impossible to judge whether it's "right" or "wrong" to do so, but there something to be said for taking the cautious approach.
Basically, if we leave schools open, more people will die in this wave, but pupils will suffer ( in the long term that is, any "suffering" in the lockdown will be relatively minor ) so it's a judgement call on which is most important, and people will differ on that.
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This Christmas will be the first one for a long time where no-one will call me a miserable tw@t for refusing to wear a novelty Christmas jumper.
In times like these you have to find the positives in unlikely places.
Christmas is coming Boris getting fat.
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