Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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There weren’t then, and probably isn’t now, the staff to properly get them working - and even if they did open them you’re only talking about an extra few thousand beds.

Imposing a lockdown is terrible and it’s going to cause great problems; don’t assume though that just getting on with it is better because it isn’t going to be.
A lockdown is a disaster, hence why they dragged their feet over it in March and are doing the same now.

But the alternative is do nothing and doing nothing would be genocide.
 
Vaccines are a very long time away.

Most places already have careful social distancing measures in place and you have to wear face masks in all shops. It doesn’t look to have worked in slowing down the spread, does it?

I know of two trusts that already have logistics in place to stock pile a vaccination from next week.
 
If they really want to control it then surely you have to close everything for a set period except your supermarkets and gps. I get they want schools and universities open as it's extremely important but do they really not think that this is one of the main reasons it's spreading so much.
 
There weren’t then, and probably isn’t now, the staff to properly get them working - and even if they did open them you’re only talking about an extra few thousand beds.

Imposing a lockdown is terrible and it’s going to cause great problems; don’t assume though that just getting on with it is better because it isn’t going to be.
I definitely don’t think we need to get on with it but we can’t just keep giving little bits of freedom and then locking people down again.
 
If they really want to control it then surely you have to close everything for a set period except your supermarkets and gps. I get they want schools and universities open as it's extremely important but do they really not think that this is one of the main reasons it's spreading so much.
Its how China got on top.

They closed everything, even supermarkets, the army delivered food to people, nobody was allowed to leave their houses.
 
Excellent article and very encouraging. The fatality rate drop they point to is staggering - down to 7%-8%. I dont think I've ever seen a claim like that before, but it seems two independent studies on either side of the Atlantic have findings to that effect.

Important points made n the wearing of face masks and reducing viral load and the point that keeping hospitals free of becoming overwhelemed underpins the figures as much as any therapeutics....which is why the murdering ball bags in Downing Street have cost us dearly in the coming period.

It’s a simple game management plan mate, defence and attack. Defence is your own precautions, attack is the therapeutics and treatment we’ve learned may help if they are required, it’s ever improving, but of course variable and subjective, case by case.

Reading all these pages, people are over complicating Covid, it’s a virus, it’ instincts are primal and based on survival, to survive it has to infect and reinfect. There isn’t just one hotspot, pubs, schools, shops uni, work. It’s pretty simple congregating with people you have a chance of being infected, more so if the infection rates are high. It really is that simple. Then you are into knock on of systems getting overwhelmed etc.

Spring time was the dry run for infections, we lucked out that wave 1 was in March in the spring heading into the summer, this Autumn/winter was always going to be Europe’s Stalingrad and darkest period of this and so it’s proving, we’ve been planning for it in the health service here since April. Most countries certainly in Europe will be in lock down or a diet form within the week/forthnight.
 
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are we so sure that March/April's Italy will happen in the UK (or anyhwere for that matter) if lockdown's avoided?
 
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