evilwebby
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That would be beating death itself.. I don't think we're quite there yet.So we are at zero deaths and infections then?
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Billy Dean
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No of cases. The thing I look at shows average no. of infections over the last 7 days per 100000 people. That figure has gone up by 100 today and normally there should be a weekend lag.
Barnfred 55
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Do you man gone up by 100, so there's an extra 100 infected per 100,000. So for a population of 80m that works out at an extra 8000 infections. That isn't easily explained away by the slaughterhouse outbreak. Or am I over simplifying things?
What was the average figure before the 100 increase.
Also is that based on people being tested positive or an estimate based on stats?
Sorry for all the questions, but you guys came out of lockdown a few weeks before us and I'm trying to see what potentially awaits us in 3/4 weeks time.
davek
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The situation in the US is very concerning. They show a second wave in progression way before the first wave has had time to subside. They are the turbo-version of the UK, and the worry is for us that when this easing of restrictions begins we'll start looking like the US. Bars, pubs and restaurants reopening with the abandonment of 2m distancing will send our case figures through the roof in a very short time. This is what happened in the US when Trump ordered governors to reopen the economy when there was a plateauing out of the virus in late May.
gonetomorrow
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I fear you are right. They don't clean glasses very diligently in our local Wetherspoons either. I suppose it'd be OK to bring your own glass.
We're all going to hell in a handcart.
davek
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I have no idea how anyone would feel comfortable sat in a bar/pub/restaurant with almost zero social distancing for hours on end. There's no way anyonme with an ounce of common sense could enjoy a night out drinking or eating under those circumstances. The places will be incubators for covid19, just as they were before the lockdown. We have well over 1000 new cases per day and it's a recipe for a disaster.
Barnfred 55
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I think the majority of people will naturally give themselves an element of personal space and that would be 1-2ft for most. Some people would work on less than that. But there are times that you will break those rules if you need to, like queuing at a bar, or standing on a bus or train if it's full, or sitting in a football stadium or theatre.
1 metre is quite a distance.
Billy Dean
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No worries mate. I was referring above to Gutersloh specifically. So when I looked yesterday, Gutersloh had 120 new infections in the last 7 days, per 100,000 people. I looked today and that figure is now 220. That translates as a total of 802 new infections over the last 7 days.
On a national level it's not that dramatic but still going up. For all of Germany it's 3805 new infections over the last 7 days, or 4.6 per 100,000 people. For comparison, about a week ago it was about 2300 new infections over the last 7 days.
gonetomorrow
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Well..................if you say so.
Barnfred 55
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The thing is mate, presumably you'll only be able to sit in company with people from within your bubble who you don't need to self distance from. There may be people on a table next to yours but you'll likely have your back to them anyway. It isn't really expected that you'll get as close as a metre to anybody except when you are moving about such as going to the loos or the bar, and then it will only be for a brief moment.
Not sure how they are going to sort out the loos mind. Also I'd prefer table service to queuing at a bar.
brieverton
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It's the staff in bars and restaurants I feel sorry for.
There will be people with underlying issues and those who live with or have close contact with shielders.
Accepting and taking on a level of personal risk is fine, but this whole thing is very messy and puts people in the most unenviable and difficult circumstances.
It should be made possible in what are unprecedented circumstances, in post-furlough world, for people to make a conscientious objection to the obligation to work in situations where their own or the health or loved ones, is at risk.
Obviously, you would need to have some documentary proof of such circumstances, but people could get it. There needs to be creative and understanding human responses on this as the situation progresses.
There will be people with underlying issues and those who live with or have close contact with shielders.
Accepting and taking on a level of personal risk is fine, but this whole thing is very messy and puts people in the most unenviable and difficult circumstances.
It should be made possible in what are unprecedented circumstances, in post-furlough world, for people to make a conscientious objection to the obligation to work in situations where their own or the health or loved ones, is at risk.
Obviously, you would need to have some documentary proof of such circumstances, but people could get it. There needs to be creative and understanding human responses on this as the situation progresses.
Barnfred 55
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That's a relief mate.
whiteshadow
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The risk doubles going by a study in the Lancet.
https://hospitalhealthcare.com/covid-19/should-the-2m-social-distancing-rule-be-relaxed/
Any source for your "claim" that it increases the risk 'ten-fold'?
Armchair Blue
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This reads like it came out of Boris Johnson's gob.
Barnfred 55
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Only trying to help mate. Sorry if it came across as patronising
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