Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Shock horror who would have thought...

Why I quit working on Boris Johnson's ‘world-beating' test-and-tracing system


Obviously, the government aren't taking this test and trace and isolate seriously enough. They don't want it as it'll get in the way of their herd immunity experiment. More and more people are seeing through the fog of bull and are driving a coach and horse through their propaganda, exceptionalism and herd immunity experiment. There has been a spike in ICU/hospitalisation cases - more than doubled in London alone since 21st May - and Johnson, and some of his 'experts', are trying to convince the great British public that it's ok to ease lockdown, open schools. Maybe he didn't put his glasses on and read some of the SAGE stuff coming his way. Johnson, his aide Cummings and his dumb and dumber 'experts' are steering us to even greater suffering than is necessary. 'Open the economy' is the battle cry from Johnson otherwise the economy will suffer and 'affect the people'. Are they the same people who had 10 years of austerity forced upon them that resulted in 130 000 preventable deaths with their families, friends and children suffering?

Only by Johnson going will we have a chance of halting further unnecessary suffering, pain and anguish.
 
This is why we cannot follow our European counterparts.


Thirteen sovereign states with a total of 401 deaths yesterday with a combined population multiple times our own, but we only have 77 less deaths.

I was speaking to a friend who was talking about how Denmark have been heralded here, but since schools have reopened etc. their confirmed cases have gone up.

I'm not looking forward to mid-June.
 
What are people's thoughts on the furlough situation? I'm inclined to think that it's akin to an extended redundancy period, with a great many of those jobs that are currently furloughed going to be permanent redundancies eventually, yet I get a sense that many of those on it are treating them like an extended holiday and normal work will resume eventually. Could be a rude awakening when the furlough scheme ends, especially as many still seem to be operating under the belief that this virus will be a single wave and then done.
 
Taking out of the equation whether lockdown restriction easing on Monday is a good idea or not.

The strategy of communicating it on the Thursday before a blisteringly hot weekend seems madness to me.

This weekend will see loads saying ‘well, it eases on Monday, so I may as well have my mates round for a barbie today. And, I know it says maximum of 6 people, but 10 or 12 will be ok”.

Seems like the same mistake made with shutting the pubs, but giving everyone one last Friday night session before they close.
 
This is why we cannot follow our European counterparts.



Again the daily figures that get announced are not from the previous 24 hours, they are up to and beyond 10 days back dated

Speaking of which 178 hospital deaths have been announced for today, 6 up on what was announced yesterday and 12 down on last Saturday, 146 were from English hospitals with 110 occurring in the last 10 days

This brings the 7 day rolling average down slightly to 165.57
 
Currently on a circular walk from Vauxhall via the Physic Garden, Old Church Street and now in Hyde Park. Glorious weather, and few cars about which is perhaps a good thing given how some of the joggers / cyclists are dressed.

CV19 hopefully can’t be transmitted by sniffing Boris bike seats.
 
What are people's thoughts on the furlough situation? I'm inclined to think that it's akin to an extended redundancy period, with a great many of those jobs that are currently furloughed going to be permanent redundancies eventually, yet I get a sense that many of those on it are treating them like an extended holiday and normal work will resume eventually. Could be a rude awakening when the furlough scheme ends, especially as many still seem to be operating under the belief that this virus will be a single wave and then done.

I think different people have approached it in different ways but I certainly know at least one person who doesn’t seem to have grasped what’s inevitably coming , I’m not sure I could paint everyone with that but she seems blissfully unaware despite the efforts of many .
 
This is why we cannot follow our European counterparts.



Difference is tbf we are 2 weeks behind mainland Europe and still have everywhere largely closed.

Come June 15th our deaths whilst not likely to be as low as those mentioned may drop to around the 100 per day level which is manageable.

And thats the key word - manageable. Lockdown never was the answer in eradicating the virus - it was to keep the infection level/deaths at a managed low rate as much as possible which we are doing.

Think back to the start of lockdown when 700-900 per day were dying and improvement has been made albeit not fast enough.
 
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