I suspect among those whose job is the understanding of pandemics, this will provide a rich source for study. Among the political class, I fear much less so.
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I suspect among those whose job is the understanding of pandemics, this will provide a rich source for study. Among the political class, I fear much less so.
All rather depressing isn't it?
Is it me or has it all gone very quiet on the people who will be doing the contact tracing here?
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UW launches online training for contact tracing to help fight COVID-19
As businesses and public spaces reopen across the nation, the old-school public health detective work known as contact tracing is becoming a major component of the battle to contain the novel...
Maybe they’re worried it will quickly go above 1.
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Yeah I've said from the start that balancing the 2 will be extremely difficult and a lot will be to do with the timing of decisions.
My take, for what it's worth, is that at the moment the Government have announced lots of things which aren't ready (I'll leave others to decide the motive) and targets which they cannot reasonably reach. There is a gap between what the Government are saying is happening and what can actually be delivered.Is it me or has it all gone very quiet on the people who will be doing the contact tracing here?
UW launches online training for contact tracing to help fight COVID-19
As businesses and public spaces reopen across the nation, the old-school public health detective work known as contact tracing is becoming a major component of the battle to contain the novel...
Regionally everyone is looking around to see what everyone else is doing to see if they can make any progress or to establish where they should be positioned as far as response.
With that uncertainty, local difference is starting to creep in and now decisions, which should be nationally driven and locally tailored are having to be made solely at local level - so one area opens schools while another keeps them closed etc.
It's a failure of command and control, and a departure from following science and strategy in favour of panic about the economic impact. Classic example of trying to play catch up because of poor prep and then having too juggle many competing demands to address.
The tracing isn't ready; schools are uncertain; scientists at SAGE don't seem equipped to adequately persuade, influence or challenge; messaging is unraveling because of hypocrisy in Government and the competing demands are causing uncertainty in Government which is rippling across the rest of the country.
It’s funny how the gov say they’re always listening and making decisions based on the scientific advise and yet none of their decisions seem to be based on scientific advise.
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Government publishes SAGE minutes
The Government Office for Science has today (Friday 29 May) published the minutes from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) meetings 1 to 34, up until the beginning of May.www.gov.uk
What we need now is some nice responsible person with no agenda to go through it all and pick out the important bits.
For me our biggest issue has been our testing capacity and I'm particularly interested in discussions around that topic
I agree mate. Way too soon and given that the majority of the British public are a bunch of pig ignorant selfish goons, this is a recipe for disaster.
theyve only relaxed rules to deflect from the Cummings fiasco. It will backfire on them when the R rate soars above 1.
The Govt need to answer for their inept handling of this situation.
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For me, the issue is that we have people still banging the drum for complete suppression of the virus, when in reality it’s been shown that’s not possible, especially this far down the line. In reality we have a similar R number, which people obsessed over, as other countries when they took similar measures to us now.
Granted, everything this government touches seems to turn to excrement, but there’s been no massive second wave reported elsewhere. Why after banging the drum about how we should have learned from Italy, Spain etc early into this should we now ignore the fact that the worse case scenario that people have decided will happen, isn’t?
Granted, everything this government touches seems to turn to excrement, but there’s been no massive second wave reported elsewhere. Why after banging the drum about how we should have learned from Italy, Spain etc early into this should we now ignore the fact that the worse case scenario that people have decided will happen, isn’t?
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Any working out for this mert?
I find it sad that so many people in this thread seem to think so little of the general population.
Surely you’re not going to say you vote Labour too ?
The R number may be similar In some countries but the proportion infected here is higher, and therefore the chance of any individual catching the disease higher at the point of coming out of lockdown.
Currently new infections in Spain, Italy, France, Germany much much lower than here.
Worth noting the Ireland’s R number estimated to be below 0.5 currently. They have handled this so much better than us.
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