Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

I always took it as, "Look I gave you £1 pocket money in 1990 and now I give you £1.50 in 2020. How much I'm giving you is the highest it's ever been."

£1.50 doesn't go a long way any more though does it?

They always show the amount at current value so your £1 in 1990 would show up as about £2.30......

 

[EFCPaul]

He'll have stopped at services and everything, fact of the matter is he'll have undoubtedly infected others. What a total c-word. If he wanted his kids away from him and his wife someone should have come to them.

Despicable but I expect nothing less from Tories.

 

[COYBL25]

Would make an interesting case study for test, trace and track this.

It`s similar to me driving to Cornwall with the kids, knowing I`ve got the virus, which usually requires a minimum of at least three stops at the services, for food, drink, toilet breaks. All the while bringing me into contact with numerous people, who are travelling all over the country

 

[peteblue]

Has the actual cash gone down, or has the actual cash not gone up as much as before?

Or has the spending been diverted from A to B within the NHS?

The cash has gone up, how it is spent is up to the NHS, and I’d like to see some answers from them on where it is going...

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

That defence of him (on the grounds its ok to do that, leading other people to think they can do it) is absolutely going to result in the deaths of people and ruin the lives of the parents and kids, who will have to deal with the knowledge that they are partially responsible for dads / mums / nannas / granddads death.

Its disgusting that they are doing it.

I just hope that the media put the question too the likes of Gove, Raab or Boris "If me and my partner have Coronavirus symptoms and are worried for our children, can we drive the kids to our parents/family members houses to be looked after"

 

[PhilM]

They didn't speak to him, but did pass on advice. I think they took the right decision, though no doubt they'll end up being blamed now - No.10 is already basically accusing them of lying.

I understand the response was arguably 'correct' as per the guidelines, including Durham's own approach, but in reality I personally feel it's a systematic flouting.

The fact that he was isolating and couldn't be spoken to shouldn't negate what he did; perhaps I'm more frustrated with the lack of enforcement as a whole.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

They’ve set the narrative, he’s determined to ride this out. The bloke thinks he’s untouchable, and it seems that he’s right.

Down with unelected bureaucrats though.

 

[Barnfred 55]

What has pissed me off mate is the typical Tory defence with Raab coming out and saying "Those now seeking to politicise it should take a long hard look in the mirror." and now Rishi Sunak with this "trying to score political points over it."

The "political point scoring" etc crap will be the official go to line now for Tory MPs.

This is political suicide mate. They'll lose the support o people like me who have tried hard to keep a sense of perspective

I haven't given up hope that he will still go today, but from the sounds of it a lot of damage has already been done with people defending him.

Many on here will be aware that Ihave been very critical of people politicising this crisis but this ain't got anything to do with politics. The guy has flouted the rules in the most irresponsible way

 

[Tea_drinker]

Johnson is a hell of a hide n seek player.

 

[tsubaki]

I just hope that the media put the question too the likes of Gove, Raab or Boris "If me and my partner have Coronavirus symptoms and are worried for our children, can we drive the kids to our parents/family members houses to be looked after"

I hope not; to suggest there is an answer to that other than "absolutely not at the present time" is dangerous. They should be asked why they were all outraged over Ferguson but have defended this clown to the hilt.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I just hope that the media put the question too the likes of Gove, Raab or Boris "If me and my partner have Coronavirus symptoms and are worried for our children, can we drive the kids to our parents/family members houses to be looked after"

The media will be all over this and rightly so

 

[spectateur]

How would you know, seriously. Government expenditure is a matter of record. You are a small cog in a very large machine, you may get the odd visibility of one part of the finance within a single hospital, but will not see the whole picture apart from the odd briefing.

The House of Commons keeps a full record, which obviously is agreed by the political parties. Now as you can see, as a percentage of GDP there is a slight reduction, but amongst other things that is determined by the growth and strength of the economy, however the expenditure is real money actually spent, and it has risen and continues to do so. How the NHS decide to spend the money is an NHS issue, but we, the taxpayer and the government, cannot be faulted for the amount we give......

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"How would he know? "
To me, talking to a professional in the system in that tone, comes over as arrogant and disrespectful.
What's the point of claiming record funding for the whole organisation when the people on the front line can't get the supplies and materials they need to do their work.

 

[davek]

They’ve set the narrative, he’s determined to ride this out. The bloke thinks he’s untouchable, and it seems that he’s right.

Down with unelected bureaucrats though.

It's a message that has broader meaning: this government want people to draw the conclusions from it. If they got shut of him it'd strengthen the continued lockdown message. They want the reverse, to loosen the lockdown.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The story makes absolutely no sense for a whole multitude of reasons.

Firstly why on earth youd drive from London to Durham with your kids if you think you've got Corona, is beyond me. Also, leaving your kids to be looked after by older parents, especially those over 70, needs to only be done as an absolute last resort. Even ignoring fact it seems to be against the guidelines, it just seems like a daft thing to do.

All that said, I dont agree with not being able to go to my parents house, and I think that rule needs to be relaxed immediately. 10 weeks is far too long and it's not good for society. I no longer feel the risk is severe enough for such an extreme rule.

 

[tsubaki]

I understand the response was arguably 'correct' as per the guidelines, including Durham's own approach, but in reality I personally feel it's a systematic flouting.

The fact that he was isolating and couldn't be spoken to shouldn't negate what he did; perhaps I'm more frustrated with the lack of enforcement as a whole.

TBF that has been the most sensible thing UK policing has done in ages - a welcome return to the idea that cops should talk to people sensibly rather than just fly around on blue lights from call to call to call, boot doors in and so on. People have benefitted far more from gentle persuation, setting a good example and designing out the temptation to do things than firing off fines and sectioning contagious people would have done.

It also takes into account the fact that the directions from HMG on this have been completely lamentable, culminating in this farce, and all the cuts which have meant they couldnt do what the French / Spanish / Italians did anyway.