Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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“We have seen many cases in which people take a long, long time to recover,” said Alessandro Venturi, the director of the San Matteo hospital in the Lombardy town of Pavia, adding that the discomfort often seems to last even longer for people with lighter symptoms. “It’s not the sickness that lasts for 60 days, it is the convalescence,” he said. “It’s a very long convalescence.”

Most people who catch the virus have few symptoms or none, but some get very sick, most often with pneumonia. Any pneumonia damages the lungs, which can take months to heal, and doctors warn that the harm might not be completely reversible. Studies also point to kidney, heart, liver and neurological damage, often from secondary infections, and no one knows what the long-term prospects are for those patients.

But even some of the infected who have avoided pneumonia describe a maddeningly persistent and unpredictable illness, with unexpected symptoms. Bones feel broken. The senses dull. Stomachs are constantly upset. There are good days and then bad days without apparent rhyme nor reason. The afflicted find the simplest tasks taxing. Testing is still mostly reserved for the hospitalized, and so people suffering less severe but stubborn symptoms are trailed by doubt about whether they have the virus.

Dr. Annalisa Malara, an intensive care physician in Codogno, southeast of Milan, who diagnosed Italy’s first case of the outbreak in February, said there was still no clear understanding of why the virus and its effects lingered so long. “Lack of energy and the sensation of broken bones” are common, she said, adding that fatigue often lingered “even after the more intense symptoms are gone.”
 
Has no one else noticed the figures for new infections are always higher on Fridays? This is especially the case when the weather is decent. It seems a deliberate ploy to worry the public just before the weekend. It is no coincidence that the highest new case figure was on Good Friday - 8681 with 980 deaths. This beat the second highest new case figure by 2480 (also a Friday when the weather was nice - 1 May). The third and seventh highest new case figure were the Wednesday and Thursday leading up to VE Day - Coincidence? Nah.

This government have abused their power here. We were originally told the lockdown was to protect the NHS, and that we needed to buy time in order for it to create the capacity for the expected overwhelming amount of cases (That didn't happen). We now have the Nightingale hospitals, and have enough ICU wards. The ridiculous scenarios predicted by Neil Ferguson have been discredited (As he has himself). So why are we still in lockdown?

It really doesn't matter what they say the plan is now - This is an abuse of power. Saying it is for our own good, doesn't cut it. They still don't have the right to do this.

Putting your crazy conspiracy theories aside; I don't think you understand how the British state and the power of law actually works.
 
Putting your crazy conspiracy theories aside; I don't think you understand how the British state and the power of law actually works.

You might also want to tell Lord Sumption that he doesn't understand how the British state and power of law actually works too. You know the one - the former Supreme Court Judge.
 
“We have seen many cases in which people take a long, long time to recover,” said Alessandro Venturi, the director of the San Matteo hospital in the Lombardy town of Pavia, adding that the discomfort often seems to last even longer for people with lighter symptoms. “It’s not the sickness that lasts for 60 days, it is the convalescence,” he said. “It’s a very long convalescence.”

Most people who catch the virus have few symptoms or none, but some get very sick, most often with pneumonia. Any pneumonia damages the lungs, which can take months to heal, and doctors warn that the harm might not be completely reversible. Studies also point to kidney, heart, liver and neurological damage, often from secondary infections, and no one knows what the long-term prospects are for those patients.

But even some of the infected who have avoided pneumonia describe a maddeningly persistent and unpredictable illness, with unexpected symptoms. Bones feel broken. The senses dull. Stomachs are constantly upset. There are good days and then bad days without apparent rhyme nor reason. The afflicted find the simplest tasks taxing. Testing is still mostly reserved for the hospitalized, and so people suffering less severe but stubborn symptoms are trailed by doubt about whether they have the virus.

Dr. Annalisa Malara, an intensive care physician in Codogno, southeast of Milan, who diagnosed Italy’s first case of the outbreak in February, said there was still no clear understanding of why the virus and its effects lingered so long. “Lack of energy and the sensation of broken bones” are common, she said, adding that fatigue often lingered “even after the more intense symptoms are gone.”

Have read a few studies that suggest recovery from virus may not be the end of the story, long term damage to the heart, lung and kidneys can be significant in chronic cases and lead to ongoing and long term chronic intervention.
 
Is Lombardy still on full lockdown and riddled with high deaths?
The deaths were sadly expected but the rise in cases is something to keep an eye on. The region has suffered a lot, would be great if it could get back to some sort of normality.
https://time.com/5835795/lombardy-coronavirus-cases-rise/ BY ASSOCIATED PRESS MAY 12, 2020 2:15 PM EDT
(ROME) — A big jump in confirmed COVID-19 cases in Italy’s hardest-hit region contributed to the country’s highest day-to-day increase in several days. According to Health Ministry data, 1,033 cases were confirmed in Lombardy since Monday evening, accounting for the majority of Italy’s 1,402 new cases. In contrast, the last few days had seen Lombardy’s daily new caseload running in the few hundreds.

Overall, Italy counts 221,216 confirmed coronavirus infections. Experts say the true number is doubtlessly much higher, pointing out that many people with mild symptoms often don’t get tested. Authorities registered 172 deaths in infected patients in the 24-hour period ending Tuesday evening, raising to 30,911 the confirmed death toll. Nearly half of those deaths have occurred in Lombardy, where the country’s outbreak began in late February.

Health officials are anxiously awaiting daily case numbers later in the week to determine if a partial lifting of lockdown restrictions on May 4 caused any rise in contagion rates.
 
Is Lombardy still on full lockdown and riddled with high deaths?

It's not on full lockdown, and it's not doing great


Hopefully those numbers are down to stats catching up from the weekend ... an effect which apparently happens in most countries


edit : The lady with the legs beat me to it.
 
Very personal choice though. Read a moving essay from a doctor who had always espoused palliative care but when his own husband (also another doctor) got ill they both decided to try everything and ended up happy with that choice despite it sadly failing to extend his life. The surviving doctor said it made him more appreciative that there should not be a “one size fits all”. Will post it if I can find it again as handled an sensitive subject clearly and sympathetically.

I have the paper copy somewhere I think, is it Palliative care: why one size doesn’t fit all.
 
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