Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[PhilM]

Urban density is invariably brought up with its obvious disadvantages but a more balanced assessment would also bring up things like how quickly people can get to hospitals or testing centers, ability to work/order goods from home, many rural areas have higher % elderly residents etc.

You're right and I think they're the things that we as the general public probably don't often consider when discussing urban centres - I certainly hadn't.

Still, on the balance of probability I suspect it's currently a greater disadvantage living in a densely populated area rather than even within a metropolitan area.

In some of the poorer areas of Liverpool for example, you have mass terrace or communal houses and a reliance on public transport to name just two.

 

[jonnyboy316]

How are the Russian death numbers that low considering the number of cases? I wonder if they have not reached their peak yet

 

[peteblue]

It might just be me, but I really do not get why people are undertaking direct comparisons with regards to population: e.g. Spain Vs. UK population.

At worst, it's % of the population or just simply the number of deaths. Why does having a larger population mean how many have died should be more acceptable?

Urban density, GDP, age of the population, health care provision and general health comparisons (smokers etc.) are more sensible comparisons.

In reality, we should be aiming for the lost number of deaths possible rather than saying, "Oh well, we've got ten more million so another few thousand is fine."

Exactly. You must excuse the fact that I had to argue numbers with the other poster in order to undermine their use in the first place. No death is acceptable, but the deaths will be what they will be and will be determined by the virus, our ability to avoid it, our ability to fight it and our ability to treat it....

 

[peteblue]

We can't draw comparisons with other countries Pete...

I know that’s what I’ve actually been arguing......

 

[Barnfred 55]

I have some life advice

Dont read the Mail comments

Don't read the Mail

 

[LinekersLegs]

You're right and I think they're the things that we as the general public probably don't often consider when discussing urban centres - I certainly hadn't.

Still, on the balance of probability I suspect it's currently a greater disadvantage living in a densely populated area rather than even within a metropolitan area.

In some of the poorer areas of Liverpool for example, you have mass terrace or communal houses and a reliance on public transport to name just two.

Poverty and high density is a particularly brutal combination sadly.

Delighted, but still amazed, that India is doing so well.

 

[Nymzee]

Poverty and high density is a particularly brutal combination sadly.

Delighted, but still amazed, that India is doing so well.

Part of me wonders if the death rate in countries like that is actually much higher than reported.

 

[4737carlin]

This talk about 14 day quarantine for people coming in, does this mean once you get here they tell you too quarantine for 14 days, then off you go and its your responsibility to do it, or does it mean they put you in quarantine ?

 

[marnie]

What's this stuff about warmer weather killing the virus off.Is this just BS or is there something in it.Asking ,because I genuinely don't know.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Just in case anyone is tempted...

Thanks LL

Really looking forward to that cruise in November now

 

[LinekersLegs]

Part of me wonders if the death rate in countries like that is actually much higher than reported.

Agree it is a concern, most regions of India don’t seem to be doing much testing, but it is pretty difficult to hide a bad outbreak. If information on Manaus’ outbreak can become common knowledge you’d expect one in Delhi to be known for instance.

 

[Toast]

What's this stuff about warmer weather killing the virus off.Is this just BS or is there something in it.Asking ,because I genuinely don't know.

Those Brits in Benidorm acting like bellends when this all started are all fine.
They were doing congas for VE day as well cos the weather here was good too.

They are not jibbing their summer holidays off either and will drive there if necessary.

 

[PhilM]

Part of me wonders if the death rate in countries like that is actually much higher than reported.

Accurate reporting of deaths and (lack of) availability of testing probably don't help their figures; also, I wonder how many deaths simply aren't reported.

 

[Nymzee]

Agree it is a concern, most regions of India don’t seem to be doing much testing, but it is pretty difficult to hide a bad outbreak. If information on Manaus’ outbreak can become common knowledge you’d expect one in Delhi to be known for instance.

You say it’s difficult but for a death to be counted surely it’s needs to go to a morgue etc. first? In the poorest regions they might just bury their own without all that stuff.

 

[LinekersLegs]

You say it’s difficult but for a death to be counted surely it’s needs to go to a morgue etc. first? In the poorest regions they might just bury their own without all that stuff.

I mean ”known” in the “word on the street” sense rather than official figures.

'Utter disaster': Manaus fills mass graves as Covid-19 hits the Amazon

Emergency measures pile pain on to mourning families as coronavirus tears through the ill-prepared jungle-flanked city

www.theguardian.com