Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueStevie35]

How do people still not get the figures fluctuate at weekends, and aren’t even exactly that day’s numbers as deaths from days before are caught up and added

 

[Armchair Blue]

What's this stuff about warmer weather killing the virus off.Is this just BS or is there something in it.Asking ,because I genuinely don't know.

Seems to be BS,big outbreaks in warmer climates as well as temperate.

 

[peteblue]

Thanks.

So, just to be clear, the day Johnson gave his roadmap out of the lockdown the lowest number of daily deaths in the UK since the start of the crisis at the end of March was recorded...and the day after, when his roadmap was being given 'detail' in the media, it fell even further....and now a day later it's back up to numbers we've commonly seen since the middle of April?

You can, therefore, presumably get my point?

As they keep explaining Dave, the numbers are usually under reported at the weekend, the last three days being the bank holiday w/e. The number then went back up to 600+ Today (not on graph as this is yesterday’s) as was fully expected and in line with the general picture seen every week.....the trend is continual reduction...

 

[peteblue]

How do people still not get the figures fluctuate at weekends, and aren’t even exactly that day’s numbers as deaths from days before are caught up and added

They either don’t listen or just refuse to understand.....

 

[Barnfred 55]

This talk about 14 day quarantine for people coming in, does this mean once you get here they tell you too quarantine for 14 days, then off you go and its your responsibility to do it, or does it mean they put you in quarantine ?

You tell them where you are staying and then go there to self isolate. The police may, or may not, check up on you

 

[mill]

Exactly. You must excuse the fact that I had to argue numbers with the other poster in order to undermine their use in the first place. No death is acceptable, but the deaths will be what they will be and will be determined by the virus, our ability to avoid it, our ability to fight it and our ability to treat it....

Just do you know, you brought numbers into it first. ‘Our numbers line up with...’.
So don’t talk absolute rubbish about undermining their use in the first place.

I’m using investment bank research as a source, who in turn have access to the best sources of information that money can pay for, Ive got access to access to the opinion of leading epidemiologists on a weekly basis, and able to read expert opinion on the impact on the economy. It includes direct updates from previous chancellors and members of treasury select committees, as well as previous heads of the Bank of England.
The actions of the U.K. government are assessed constantly.
The numbers *are* important. And the opinion of those I’m listening to are valid.
And they are saying that mistakes have been made and people have died because of it. They are saying that the slow reaction means that the lockdown measures need to be in place longer. And that because we aren’t well placed to track and trace that we are likely to see more of a W shaped recession (which increases the likelihood of actual redundancies and more than just furloughed employment).

everyone can be wrong but I’m guessing their sources and their opinions are much better informed than yours.

 

[davek]

No. I can’t get your point Dave. The numbers during the week before and after address are around the 600 mark. Nothing has changed.

It's clear what happened:

Johnson's dropping of 'stay at home' and the announcement of 'stay alert...but get out there' was ushered in by record drops in the daily death rate on the day he announced the 'roadmap out of lockdown' and the day after when it had to be politically sold.

You're either too thick to get that, or just playing silly buggers to not get it...my money is on the latter.

 

[Nymzee]

I mean ”known” in the “word on the street” sense rather than official figures.

'Utter disaster': Manaus fills mass graves as Covid-19 hits the Amazon

Emergency measures pile pain on to mourning families as coronavirus tears through the ill-prepared jungle-flanked city

www.theguardian.com

Yeh that’s what I mean. Lots of poorer rural areas of India surely can’t be reporting deaths like they would in a city. Same goes for any country like that.

 

[Nymzee]

Accurate reporting of deaths and (lack of) availability of testing probably don't help their figures; also, I wonder how many deaths simply aren't reported.

I suspect a lot.

 

[Tea_drinker]

This quarantine for 14 days is surely a brexit ruse. In the eu with constant free movement between countries it's just not workable.

 

[davek]

As Boris, address was pre-recorded NO, I dont get your point!

Those death figures were always going to be massaged down to chime in with the murderer's address to the nation.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

As Boris, address was pre-recorded NO, I dont get your point!

Weeks they have had for that road map and Johnson addresses the nation in that manner, he should stick to hiding fridges.

 

[PhilM]

I suspect a lot.

Similarly, the Chinese community in the UK was always notorious for this from my own personal experiences. I wonder how much it comes from their homeland?

 

[BlueStevie35]

It's clear what happened:

Johnson's dropping of 'stay at home' and the announcement of 'stay alert...but get out there' was ushered in by record drops in the daily death rate on the day he announced the 'roadmap out of lockdown' and the day after when it had to be politically sold.

You're either too thick to get that, or just playing silly buggers to not get it...my money is on the latter.

Dave mate, 600+ don’t just die in one day based off an announcement, those figures will be a mix of 2-3+ days as there’s no one hardly in office at the weekend. They’ll be high again tomorrow and Thursday while it catches up then drop under 300 Friday to Monday

 

[Dixieslaces]

It's clear what happened:

Johnson's dropping of 'stay at home' and the announcement of 'stay alert...but get out there' was ushered in by record drops in the daily death rate on the day he announced the 'roadmap out of lockdown' and the day after when it had to be politically sold.

You're either too thick to get that, or just playing silly buggers to not get it...my money is on the latter.

The announcement was pre recorded you condescending WUM!