Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

They don’t focus on advance billings for an advanced state of the company. It’s so they can correctly apportion the costs associated with the respective revenues so that they can correctly calculate profits (and tax etc). Business generally don’t change accounting practices half way through a year either. There is a difference been accruals and cash flow management and this though.

This was to safe face. And so that headline figures look like what was promised. The numbers included tests that were sent, ignoring the fact that a third of the tests sent in the preceding week were returned to the distributor and had not reached their intended target. The figures weren’t adjusted for this. I’m not even going into the fact that the test is highly invasive and would be hard for someone at home to administer correctly.
The latest daily figures show 56k actual tests. 56% of the target.

Sales Directors look at billings because that’s what they are driven by. They are not particularly interested in costs. The Finance and Operations people are, but that’s for another day.

I totally agree it was to save face, but as was even said by the medic the other day, we can count them going out or we can count them coming back. If you count them going out you at least see a trend of the continuing tests. If you measure them coming back you have absolutely no idea if or when they may do so, so just get peaks and troughs.....

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

That's outrageous. But could one simply delete the app after boarding the train?

Welcome to the Matrix, I'm already aboard good ship Nebuchadnezzar.

 

[tsubaki]

I totally agree it was to save face, but as was even said by the medic the other day, we can count them going out or we can count them coming back. If you count them going out you at least see a trend of the continuing tests. If you measure them coming back you have absolutely no idea if or when they may do so, so just get peaks and troughs.....

A valiant effort this

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Building PPE plants in every city close to the hospitals to supply their needs or built near a cluster of towns to supply them and rural areas should be on the NHS agenda, in the past and now. In fact they should have started in early March building such factories. That would have eased the lack of PPE for front line staff, who have put themselves at risk due to PPE shortages, not delivered by Hancock's SCCL company.

On a more general note, finance would be crucial to starting up or reviving widespread manufacturing in this country. Would the City of London finance such undertakings or would it need the government to do this would be the issue.

Why should we ignore 90 years of history to change policy based on one year? This is a freak event.

 

[zzr45]

Optional, but they’ll probably work it into things that make it in effect compulsory - eg you can’t get on a train without it.

The problem is going to be that the most vulnerable to the virus are also the least likely to have a smartphone. I’d wonder if there might be a work around with a wearable Bluetooth device that could be produced that links back to a system. There could potentially be a lot of ‘dark’ infections otherwise.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

For gods sake please be true

The problem is these things take an age to develop into any meaningful treatment/vaccine.

I would be shocked if we have any form of cure before 2021 in which realistically by then a good portion of the country will have already had the virus at some point you imagine once they release lockdown measures.

 

[Neiler]

Deaths aren't the only thing though are they, you have no idea how many people have been infected by it.

It sems like most governments are targeting this going into the summer - Cillian Da Gascon of NEPHET (Irish Scientific Public Health team for managing the virus) says we are hoping to have run an antibody test for the public by the end of June - that timeline seems ambitious to me though personally.

Roche Holding develops antibody test for Covid-19

Experts think such tools will be needed to lift social-distancing measures across the globe

www.irishtimes.com

 

[degsy]

Going to have to hire decent doormen to manage numbers and stop drunks trying to sneak in.

Just hope they aint the same doormen who operate in Concert Square otherwise you'll only be allowed in if you have a pair of tits and fake lashes.

Memo to self; check back of wardrobe to see if my false tits and lashes are still there.

 

[tsubaki]

The problem is going to be that the most vulnerable to the virus are also the least likely to have a smartphone. I’d wonder if there might be a work around with a wearable Bluetooth device that could be produced that links back to a system. There could potentially be a lot of ‘dark’ infections otherwise.

That’s true, but they might have factored that into it - it would be another way to stop the vulnerable being exposed to it.

 

[zzr45]

Why should we ignore 90 years of history to change policy based on one year? This is a freak event.

At the fear of agreeing with the Russian bot, surely it makes sense to actually have a basic supply line, actually put some of the billions poured into the NHS into ensuring they have the basics always at hand. Could the issues every winter be mitigated by a better supply of PPE for example?

 

[tsubaki]

At the fear of agreeing with the Russian bot, surely it makes sense to actually have a basic supply line, actually put some of the billions poured into the NHS into ensuring they have the basics always at hand. Could the issues every winter be mitigated by a better supply of PPE for example?

TBF there should be a look at why the NHS needs so much disposable PPE on the first place - if (for example) gowns and scrubs can be made reusable and can be sterilised then this really should be done, even if there is an increase in cost.

 

[Charro]

Why should we ignore 90 years of history to change policy based on one year? This is a freak event.

Surely we could’ve been prepared a lot better than we have been?

I’m surprised there isn’t some sort of pandemic response process that filters from government right through to small business.

Everywhere seems to have been caught cold by this

It may be a freak event but it’s something that’s been threatened for decades now and was inevitable to happen at some stage. No excuse to not have the basic supplies at the ready

 

[Neiler]

I‘m not not sure anyone has have they ? Obviously wearing a mask does something. It stops you coughing or sneezing all over someone else and perhaps stops a virus coming the other way. But look at the trouble we’ve had in getting ppe to half a million medics. The U.K. has 67million people, all of whom would need one or two masks per day, so say 100 million every single day, and of course everyone else on the planet wants the same. I just think the government are taking a practical view of the situation and delaying in case a test to tell if you have had the disease comes along......or until they’ve built a massive stockpile of masks.....

Private retailers have already set up PPE divisions and are busy ordering face coverings from manufacturers suppliers. They will be common place on the high street i would imagine shortly. They will be washable cotton masks in the main, while you've probably seen you can make your own.

Some local councils in other countries (Germany) have given every citizen three non disposable masks to comply with laws.

 

[jamieni]

 

[zzr45]

TBF there should be a look at why the NHS needs so much disposable PPE on the first place - if (for example) gowns and scrubs can be made reusable and can be sterilised then this really should be done, even if there is an increase in cost.

I think that’s the main issue. Had a quick Google to see if there was anything that sort of gave a rough estimate but can’t see anything - This NHS Wales gives the process - http://www.wales.nhs.uk/sitesplus/d...e Medical_Surgical Devices Policy_Issue 2.pdf

Do wonder if there would actually be more waste/carbon output with that system opposed to the disposable PPE due to the energy to wash/materials to pack etc. and how many uses each article would be good for.