Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Something wrong about that.
Some local authorities insists on personal GPS trackers. Mine looked into it ,however, baulked at the cost. Under the pretence of SOS lone worker alarms... There are already well devised lone working policy, with adjustment for various risk. It was in my opinion to track people.
 
Is right.
The lockdown is almost certain to be lifted next week

My completely uneducated guess is we'll not be back to normal for at least 3 months from the original date. That'd fit in with the furlough scheme and the most vulnerable who are shielding. They'll open things up in 3 weekly increments and then see where they are after the 3 months.
 
One of the leaders of a group opposing Gov. Roy Cooper’s stay-at-home measures aimed at slowing the coronavirus spread has identified herself as having tested positive for the virus. Audrey S. Whitlock, who is an administrator on the ReOpen NC Facebook page, posted a message to the group saying she tested positive and that her quarantine period ended on Sunday.

Attempts to reach Whitlock for comment Sunday and Monday were unsuccessful. The News & Observer’s news partner, ABC-11, reported Whitlock confirmed she tested positive but refused comment when asked whether she attended ReOpen NC’s protests in downtown Raleigh the last two Tuesdays.
 
Add in the Nightingale Hospitals are barely in use apparently.

Its an odd one as I cant work out the Government's strategy - if its managed spread whilst keeping the economy going they surely should be looking to open up small businesses in the next 2-3 weeks as by then they'll be even more free hospital beds - however you would think they would need to do more testing than they have done RE antibodies.

However if they are looking to try smother out the virus and have cases drop massively via increased lockdowns for another 3-6 weeks after this one ends going into June - surely they also need to be shutting the borders down etc. Otherwise its counterproductive?

I don't know if they have one tbh

But it's better to have those hospitals and beds (nearly 60%) in reserve.

I don't think there is any appetite for increased measures in terms of stringency. It might just be length.

We have to get through this middle chunk (ending May 7th) and then look to the next three weeks.

I reckon during that 3 weeks is when we may, may see some places such as garden centres or large stores able to open. But it just depends on how the numbers are looking.

The last thing that should happen is another lockdown later in the year and there shouldn't even be a thought of it. It's going to be too costly (in terms of life, not just money!) So if that means keeping this one going a few weeks longer, so be it.
 
Wait for this from Johnson in a few months: covid 19 has shown that our nhs in absolutely fantastic, but it's also shown us how it can be improved even further, and that's why we're going to sell it to the USA. To improve it even further, oh yes indeed.

Yeah, thats deffo going to happen. The US is so well thought of in the UK these days. Idiot.
 
Have you heard the one heard the quote about " empty barrels" ? the more you post the more you show how little you understand . If someone is "showing signs" of heart problems then they should stay away as they are in a high risk group and the drugs they take for some cancers lower your resistance to infection so they again should stay clear .
As said before it is not a black or white there is a middle ground ,you can have treatment without putting yourself at risk.

Yes chemotherapy does lower your white blood cell levels and you do have to be massively careful to avoid infection.

The problem here though is quite different, patients are missing GP referrals to hospitals for suspect cancerous conditions, in other words prior to biopsy and diagnosis.

They're presenting, if at all, at a much more advanced stage when its far harder, if possible at all, to treat successfully.

Presenting when the cancer has metastasised to other organs is almost always fatal. Cancer needs to be caught in the early stages, then it can be very treatable.

Any GP referrals to hospital should absolutely be attended, not doing so is risking it being too late and could be fatal.

Cancer is treated at specialist cancer units within hospitals, such as Clatterbridge or in the last decade Fazakerley - although others like Southport now also have centres. Clatterbridge was always the regional centre until relatively recently.

Chemotherapy and Radiotherapy are the usual methods of treatment with the former lowering your white blood cell count (gives a measure of your immune system and when very low you are very vulnerable)
 
If you are correct on the first point and the virus stays in the bodies system weeks after the symptoms, then it calls into question the effectiveness of testing. Conceivably front line workers could be testing positive, and being instructed to self isolate even though they may be well past the contagious period.

I expect people to still catch the disease after lockdown. Just not at the numbers we are seeing..

Are the tests results retrospective?. I realised deaths were, but hadn't heard that about tests, other than the time lapse for getting results through which I believed were now down to 24/36 hours.
If they have sped up then I have not read about it. Very good if so, 5 days was far too long for test results in current climate.

My theory is that you could detect quite a lot of viruses at any time inside someone without them having symptoms. Look , none of us have ever been arsed to learn about viruses and a lot of information about prevention I'm sure apply to other viruses as well.

So saying that , if the test picks up trace amounts of a virus in the system then very well possible that it detects positive results , meaning. 2 wrek isolation would get rid of the virus that way.

Testing would be the e
 
Yeah, thats deffo going to happen. The US is so well thought of in the UK these days. Idiot.
Without wanting to get into politics, the argument that the NHS is going to be privatised (sold off) has been around since the inception of the service.

The fact it hasn’t really happened yet, or at least anywhere near to the extent people suggest, is something that I can’t ignore. It won't happen any time soon.
 
Yeah, thats deffo going to happen. The US is so well thought of in the UK these days. Idiot.
So your view is that the UK will never have any further trade or business with the US cos the US is not well thought of here at the moment. Or do you just refer to the nhs? If so what marks that out as different?
 
So your view is that the UK will never have any further trade or business with the US cos the US is not well thought of here at the moment. Or do you just refer to the nhs? If so what marks that out as different?

Bit off topic mate. You waded into the Covid thread with a post about Johnson flogging the NHS to the US.

I pulled you up on it.
 
So your view is that the UK will never have any further trade or business with the US cos the US is not well thought of here at the moment. Or do you just refer to the nhs? If so what marks that out as different?
I suspect the point is that at the moment the government would probably be reluctant to deal with the US, while their only medical response has been lacklustre.

That's if they were actually really planning to dismantle and sell the NHS off at all, which is another matter entirely. Right now, the focus will be on the NHS working.
 
I suspect the point is that at the moment the government would probably be reluctant to deal with the US while they're only medical response has been lacklustre.

That's if they were actually really planning to dismantle and sell the NHS off at all, which is another matter entirely. Right now, the focus will be on the NHS working.

Plus it’s becoming more apparent by the day that Trump is a dangerous lunatic.
 
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