peteblue
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Exactly....
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Exactly....
Maybe we could get whomever could build a new hospital from the first brick upwards in a fortnight to build our new stadium. It might be ready by the time the football recommences.
Edit, just reread the piece and tbf to the author the removal of New York as an outlier was a fair and understandable approach, I shouldn’t speed read before caffeine has kicked in! I still however think he is not including valuable context in the date of first case.Yes, lets
From the worldometers site, the same data source that the Spiked article used (although oddly despite the article being dated today they used 17th April
As of 22nd April
Sweden
Coronavirus Update (Live): 130,307,410 Cases and 2,842,464 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...www.worldometers.info
cases 16,004, cases per 1M pop 1585, total deaths 1937, deaths per 1m pop 192, tests 94,500, tests per 1m 9357
Norway
cases 7275, cases per 1M pop 1342, total deaths 185, deaths per 1m pop 34, tests 148,656, tests per 1m 27,421
Denmark
cases 7,912, cases per 1M pop 1366, total deaths 384 deaths per 1m pop 66, tests 108,465, tests per 1m 18,726
Finland
cases 4,129 cases per 1M pop 745, total deaths 149 deaths per 1m pop 27, tests 68,552, tests per 1m 12,372
And this was their “analysis”
See the distortion in presenting the data the writer makes?
1) He uses data from last Friday which significantly reduces Sweden’s case/death numbers
2) Provides no context that the neighboring countries are doing far more testing so will likely have higher case numbers
3) Does not provide those neighbours deaths per 1m which are vastly better than Sweden, only compared it to Europe as a whole
4) Provides no context of when first case was recorded which is important in determining how long a country has had an outbreak - Norway’s numbers are probably flattered in this respect as they registered their first case about a month later than Sweden iirc but Finland’s was about the same so is still a useful comparison.
If you are making an honest assessment of data you include ALL of it and make your best conclusion based on it, not just cherry pick it to suit your argument. Although the Sweden example wasn’t as flagrant as him just writing off all of New York‘s 20,000 deaths as an “outlier” and therefore not worthy of inclusion In his “calculations”!
Because you cried like a little girl about Rep to me in a PM i will reply to why i called this statement a load of rubbish.
You said only 11 people under the age of 45 have died from Covid 19, well all of them and more must have worked for the NHS
Doctors, nurses, porters, volunteers: the UK health workers who have died from Covid-19
We are launching a project to remember those who lost their lives working in hospitals, surgeries and care homes during the coronavirus outbreakwww.theguardian.com
I will say it again and in public, your statement is a load of rubbish.
I wonder if that's not to hide their shame should they be spotted on television wielding a ridiculous sign.
The Penalty Box Dancer
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I doubt we'll see anything opening in the next few months.
peteblue
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pete what they’ve done nightingale wise is worthy of huge credit . I know a couple of lads involved in bits of it , The periphery and knowing them despite the plaudits they’ll be mostly drinking tea
however my issue is by “people said we couldn’t build one hospital and we built seven “ almost feels like it undermines everyone’s achievements , and I’ll give kudos to the government for It as well . Just get credit for what you’ve done don’t undermine the achievement by both politicising it and grabbing underserved glory.
Totally agree. Mind you he’s got to say something.....
I think we definitely will.
There’s no scenario here where we carry on in the current lockdown for more than 6-8 weeks.
peteblue
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I shall be opening a bottle of Pedigree in about 5 minutes......
Particularly by a relative/neighbour in a “sacrificial” category who might object to the approach!
just say they’re a magnificent achievement, credit for what we’ve done, Undoubtably lives will be saved , beyond what anyone expected credit to all involved and British endeavour blah blah . Seems easy enough and we all move along .
I’ve read you say many times that Across the board In this country politicians these days are pygmies, well with the odd exception this crisis has Shone a light on that .
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I share the sentiment of where you are coming from.
Except flu deaths in the UK are much lower than you would think. Sure it fluctuates every year but apparantly tjere was only 600 deaths last year attributed to complication with flu.
Now smoking related illness , that kills far more every year than covid-19 will be attributed to. That's your elephant in the room , noone cares about that yet it's that which is the biggest killer.
If this is validated with further trials it would be great as make testing much easier and safer.
summerisle
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It'll be released at the same time as the Russia report. Then went on to say he can't recall whether he'd read the actual report, y'know, the one detailing a national pandemic ; obviously no lessons to be learned from that then.
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We will. End of this lockdown period it will slowly start coming back.
That's the key, slowly coming back. So social distancing will be around for a while yet. Shops will need limited customers in store and events won't be happening with crowds for a good while.
The next few months , who knows what will happen in regards to infection rates and numbers. But business's will start opening again , the government can't financially sustain paying everyone for too much longer , certainly not beyond the June date.
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