Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Blues Harp]

Man who voted for Brexit just because, now wants to see evidence

A 5 hour cycle ride will do him good..

 

[Joey66]

@Joey66 you are slowly but surely dragging me down to your level of spelling

Nonsense your spell check has gone like mine......

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

One of my uncles, in his mid 80’s, died of the flu yesterday, not Covid19 apparently...so the flu is still taking people anyway.....

Sorry to hear that mate.

 

[mahermi1]

Try defrosting it first. Those carrot flavour calippos were never going to take off.

Thanks mate, I'll remember that !

 

[mahermi1]

and it’s really hard and cold....

Maybe you've got circulation problems Pete.

 

[Aqui1a]

Going purely from the absolute numbers, it's not even the same as the flu right now. The flu has killed 3x more people than coronavirus this year, and the government has put us in lockdown. 11 people under the age of 45 have died of coronavirus. Just 11. And most if not all of those had preexisting conditions.

And for those interested in the effectiveness of the lockdown, this is a good read https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/04/22/there-is-no-empirical-evidence-for-these-lockdowns/

Like I've already said, I reckon history will look back and wonder why we reacted so bizarrely. I'm almost certain of it.

 

[RAFUH]

Does anybody know how long it will take from starting human trials (assuming they are successful ) to the vaccine being rolled out .
Also if a University develops it will they make the formula and method freely available to all manufacturers or will we be dependant on one manufacturer.
If its only 1 that obviously constrains manufacture and delivery
Would all vaccine makers be tooled up to make a coronavirus vaccine

The time lines you've heard 12-18 months is to get a vaccine through clinical trial and the approval process to be marketed. Most companies don't ramp up production until after approval or at least very late in the process. Financially risky to do it earlier.

Somewhere in here I posted a link to a company that is already manufacturing it's most promising vaccine. It is still in animal trials, about to move to human. Their thought is they would be able to immediately put the vaccine on the market once approved - none of the usual delay.

Universities working on it are likely working on it via a grant from a pharmaceutical company, but if it is an NIH grant, then might see patent rights waved, but still unlikely. More likely they will sell rights to multiple manufacturers to increase output.

Regardless...the process will be slower than anyone would like. At risk populations and healthcare workers will likely get the first rounds, then everyone else.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

In fact frozen produce can actually be more nutritionally dense due to that.

Find this dismissal of frozen food bizarre. Frozen is just a food preservation technique.

All well and good if you have space money to buy and run said freezer let alone transport to get home quickly before it turns to mush some people can't afford the minium order for delivery, thought such ivory tower chat was dubunked when that Tory with a train lived off benefits for a week in the 90s.

 

[peteblue]

Going purely from the absolute numbers, it's not even the same as the flu right now. The flu has killed 3x more people than coronavirus this year, and the government has put us in lockdown. 11 people under the age of 45 have died of coronavirus. Just 11. And most if not all of those had preexisting conditions.

And for those interested in the effectiveness of the lockdown, this is a good read https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/04/22/there-is-no-empirical-evidence-for-these-lockdowns/

Like I've already said, I reckon history will look back and wonder why we reacted so bizarrely. I'm almost certain of it.

I hope you are right... But for now I’ll just go with the advice given.......

 

[Aqui1a]

A much more reasonable reaction to this would to have been to protect seniors. Let people under the age of, say, 50 or something continue to go about their daily lives, and the government could have spent the money on protecting the old and vulnerable with home deliveries and whatnot. It would have made so much more sense and wouldn't have been so costly to the economy.

What we have now is such a ridiculous overreaction that I can't believe more people don't see it. It's incredible.

Considering the incredibly small number of deaths in the non-elderly (kinda like how the flu works, say), does anyone disagree that this course of action would be more reasonable?

 

[Aqui1a]

I hope you are right... But for now I’ll just go with the advice given.......

Absolutely. Those above a particular age should absolutely take extra care and self-isolate. I would have been happy to see people in that group get much more help, and the rest of people less.. but as it stands, that group - the most vulnerable group - has been pretty much ignored in order to enforce a lockdown across the board. It's so stupid.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Going purely from the absolute numbers, it's not even the same as the flu right now. The flu has killed 3x more people than coronavirus this year, and the government has put us in lockdown. 11 people under the age of 45 have died of coronavirus. Just 11. And most if not all of those had preexisting conditions.

And for those interested in the effectiveness of the lockdown, this is a good read https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/04/22/there-is-no-empirical-evidence-for-these-lockdowns/

Like I've already said, I reckon history will look back and wonder why we reacted so bizarrely. I'm almost certain of it.

I would think the lockdown has kept deaths from Coronavirus down as well mate.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This is starting to stink very badly of a cover up.

The key players in this... Johnson and Hancock are nowhere to be seen.

Other government ministers are quick to follow the ‘guided by the science’ line to wash their hands of accountability.

The UK scientists have been way out of step with other countries... if these numbers being reported today are accurate then the UK science is wrong... yet the UK government continues to follow its guidance.

All involved need sacking and probably charged with manslaughter through gross incompetence and negligence.

The UK public are living this right now but we are seemingly sleepwalking in a torrent of death and devastation... because the government are misleading us on the real figures.

Wake up people!!

Last week SAGE took the decision not to release notes or attendance of their meetings, I could smell their BS in Mid Wales.

 

[Walken]

Going purely from the absolute numbers, it's not even the same as the flu right now. The flu has killed 3x more people than coronavirus this year, and the government has put us in lockdown. 11 people under the age of 45 have died of coronavirus. Just 11. And most if not all of those had preexisting conditions.

And for those interested in the effectiveness of the lockdown, this is a good read https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/04/22/there-is-no-empirical-evidence-for-these-lockdowns/

Like I've already said, I reckon history will look back and wonder why we reacted so bizarrely. I'm almost certain of it.

You are also going from the numbers 12 days ago, coronavirus deaths have nearly doubled in that time, you are a moron

 

[Aqui1a]

You are also going from the numbers 12 days ago, coronavirus deaths have nearly doubled in that time, you are a moron

Tell you what, don't just double the number... TRIPLE the number, and assume the flu deaths haven't increased a lot either (during flu season even). Then get back to me.