Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Going to ask a really stupid question here - Don't get offended or shoot me down in flames

Did they originally say it was 4 to 10 days for the virus to be contracted and then to show symptoms? How long on average would it take a person to die after they'd contracted it?

It would be useful to know what percentage of people have gotten it since the lockdown took place, because surely the numbers would be dropping off after 3 weeks of isolation?
 
In terms of BMI, I’m sure there will be numerous studies into whether it is a significant factor or not, controlling for all other factors.

Suffice to say, for those of us carrying a few extra pounds it’s important to eat healthily and exercise as much as we are able.
 
I was always told that BMI is measured by the amount of weight you are putting on your knees. 17 stone of fat or muscle has to be supported by them regardless of whether it's healthy weight or not.

Whilst correct in the sense your skeleton needs to handle it it's still not right. The NHS website's calculator, if I mess with my weight value to get it up higher, says the words "overweight" and that I should "lose weight".

What if I play rugby or a contact sport? Why should the NHS tell me I'm overweight and need to lose weight? To me it's wrong.
 
It really isn't.

Combine the statistics of how many are overweight (over 60% of the country) against the levels of physical activity.

Then sprinkle on top your lived experienced (account for any bias of course, like if all your mates are climbers).

Unless BMI is accurate for everyone it's pointless. You can't have a situational indicator can you.
 
Going to ask a really stupid question here - Don't get offended or shoot me down in flames

Did they originally say it was 4 to 10 days for the virus to be contracted and then to show symptoms? How long on average would it take a person to die after they'd contracted it?

It would be useful to know what percentage of people have gotten it since the lockdown took place, because surely the numbers would be dropping off after 3 weeks of isolation?

Roughly speaking :-

  • A few days to display symptoms
  • At least a week before you're likely to deteriorate ( call it ten days ) and be admitted
  • I think it's then likely to take about two weeks on average to be discharged, probably longer on average to die ( call it three weeks )
So maybe about 5 weeks on average in total ?
 
Going to ask a really stupid question here - Don't get offended or shoot me down in flames

Did they originally say it was 4 to 10 days for the virus to be contracted and then to show symptoms? How long on average would it take a person to die after they'd contracted it?

It would be useful to know what percentage of people have gotten it since the lockdown took place, because surely the numbers would be dropping off after 3 weeks of isolation?
3weeks +1week stat. lag?
 
Unless BMI is accurate for everyone it's pointless. You can't have a situational indicator can you.

It really isn't pointless for most people, like I've said.

If you don't exercise regularly, doing both cardio and muscle strengthening, and you're overweight, it is going to be useful.

That is most of the adults in this country.

People in shape will already know if the BMI calculator wouldn't work for them.
 
It really isn't pointless for most people, like I've said.

If you don't exercise regularly, doing both cardio and muscle strengthening, and you're overweight, it is going to be useful.

That is most of the adults in this country.

People in shape will already know if the BMI calculator wouldn't work for them.

I'm referring more to the people BMI classes as overweight and that need to lose weight that clearly aren't.
 
That's not the case IMO, there isn't that overwhelming consensus at all.

I dont know mate, i think most people believe these restrictions or lock downs are down to suppressing a first wave of virus infection, reducing deaths, and protecting the health service from a swamping rather then curing or eradicating the virus. Maybe im wrong!!

I think everyone accepts the show stopper here is herd immunity, probably by a vaccine (artificially) ultimately, rather then running open armed into catching it (naturally). People will catch it obviously, and the closer the duality o thef two methods of achieving herd immunity move together, the more protection we will have. But how the natural way herd immunity develops can definitely be influenced by policy and political decision making, that has a direct influence on how many people are impacted and die in between, the natural progression can be influenced.

Id be surprised if people think all of these restriction and lock downs are to eradicate this virus, that wont be happening. Maybe people are getting confused with the concept of herd immunity vs the Uk initial approach to achieving herd immunity, which was bananas.
 
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