Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

On average 1300 people die each day in the UK. Give or take figures each day, winter being higher per day compared to summer I would imagine.

What I would find interesting that if average 500000 people die each year , how will covid 19 affect this come December?

Relatively unknown at this point but with an increased number of deaths now in a short space of time, you would expect that to average out as we isolate and reduce infection rate.

So come December , will we see a massive spike in statistics in the country? The narrative that many people who have died from the virus would have died anyway , with underlying health issues being the main reason which would attribute to the former statistics minus a pandemic.

Also if average 1300 die a day now , has there been a spike there also? Are we seeing significant increase in deaths as the hospitals are reporting increased capacity due to the virus. We are reporting hundreds of deaths a day right now , is that pushing the average death rate above 2000 a day? Or are many of the hundreds from covid-19 being seperated from what would have been part of that number anyway?

Probably mundane for most people , just curious as to how all of this will affect everything going on given the perspective figures in the UK are only around 60000 from covid-19 which would not increase the yearly average by much

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending27march2020#deaths-data

this might help clear things up (or might not!)

 

[BlueToff]

When I read stuff like this I start to think it's planned

What was planned? China releasing a virus to get rid of ethnic minorities?

 

[Neiler]

Seems to be what most governments are developing.

NHS COVID-19 app could lift lockdown by tracing those in contact with infected

NHSX is working with Apple and Google to create an app which would trace the contacts of infected people, allowing lockdown measures to be lifted, according to reports

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[BlueToff]

Hundreds flock to London's parks on sunny Saturday

As the capital’s Victoria Park reopens its gates after two weeks, the rules on exercise and social distancing remain blurred

www.theguardian.com

This is what I was talking about yesterday. All day just hundreds of people if not more walking around the park. Presumably infecting each other. There's no way you can avoid each other on these paths. This park was closed last week so madness to reopen on sunny Easter weekend in my humble opinion

I can only speak from my experience mate. I don't live in London and I'm thankful that I don't in this situation. I agree it seems silly to reopen the park for this weekend but if I lived there I'd probably want to be able to get an hour in the park in too.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

sorry if re-post

 

[Twinkletoes123]

It's a sad day when you have the president of the US admitting that a virus is more intelligent than he is...

“This is a very brilliant enemy. You know, it’s a brilliant enemy. They develop drugs like the antibiotics. You see it. Antibiotics used to solve every problem. Now one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can’t keep up with it.
"And they're constantly trying to come up with a new – people go to a hospital and they catch – they go for a heart operation – that's no problem, but they end up dying from – from problems. You know the problems I'm talking about. There's a whole genius to it."
He added: “We’re fighting – not only is it hidden, but it’s very smart. Okay? It’s invisible and it’s hidden, but it’s – it’s very smart.”

Trump says ‘germ is so brilliant antibiotics can’t keep up with it’ in chaotic White House coronavirus meeting

President describes virus as ‘very smart’, ‘a brilliant enemy’, and ‘a genius’, on same day more than 2,000 US citizens die from Covid-19

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Walken]

It's a sad day when you have the president of the US admitting that a virus is more intelligent than he is...

“This is a very brilliant enemy. You know, it’s a brilliant enemy. They develop drugs like the antibiotics. You see it. Antibiotics used to solve every problem. Now one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can’t keep up with it.
"And they're constantly trying to come up with a new – people go to a hospital and they catch – they go for a heart operation – that's no problem, but they end up dying from – from problems. You know the problems I'm talking about. There's a whole genius to it."
He added: “We’re fighting – not only is it hidden, but it’s very smart. Okay? It’s invisible and it’s hidden, but it’s – it’s very smart.”

Trump says ‘germ is so brilliant antibiotics can’t keep up with it’ in chaotic White House coronavirus meeting

President describes virus as ‘very smart’, ‘a brilliant enemy’, and ‘a genius’, on same day more than 2,000 US citizens die from Covid-19

www.independent.co.uk

sadly it was only a matter of time before he threw a 5 year olds full vocabulary of superlatives at it

 

[McBain]

What was planned? China releasing a virus to get rid of ethnic minorities?

That would be us westerners to Chinese ... conspiracy debunked.

 

[BlueToff]

That would be us westerners to Chinese ... conspiracy debunked.

Exactly. I'm not at all saying this was 'planned'. It's all too ludicrous for it to have been planned.

The collective response - well, that is a worry, but it's where we are and the only option there seems to be.

 

[spectateur]

indeed, but they are also the only one not on lockdown......

Yes, but Sweden has a very low population density. Also a big proportion of them live alone. Quite different from UK.

 

[roydo]

Yes, but Sweden has a very low population density. Also a big proportion of them live alone. Quite different from UK.

Dont they like each other?

 

[Joey66]

Eu on the ball as usual.

Coronavirus: A test of the West

We are experiencing the first global pandemic unfolding in the 24/7 news cycle and taking its toll, in real time, on our daily lives, our financial security and the global economy.

euobserver.com

Particually after long talks last week on Covid 19'- the chief medical officer of the EU resigned ....

 

[Neiler]

Eu on the ball as usual.

Coronavirus: A test of the West

We are experiencing the first global pandemic unfolding in the 24/7 news cycle and taking its toll, in real time, on our daily lives, our financial security and the global economy.

euobserver.com

I do wonder was the herd immunity thing initially, to be seen as being "different" to what he EU was doing and recommending and an extension of expressing sovereignty.

Maybe that's harsh, but i wonder did it feed into political thinking.

The first challenge for Britain, is going to be the economic stimulus package for the economy. I wonder will we see a devaluing of sterling ahead of the expected recession. Not to get into it to much but the current climate is going to make negotiating a trade deal very interesting.

 

[Tubey]

I do wonder was the herd immunity thing initially, to be seen as being "different" to what he EU was doing and recommending and an extension of expressing sovereignty.

Maybe that's harsh, but i wonder did it feed into political thinking.

The first challenge for Britain, is going to be the economic stimulus package for the economy. I wonder will we see a devaluing of sterling ahead of the expected recession. Not to get into it to much but the current climate is going to make negotiating a trade deal very interesting.

There's no doubt in my mind that was the case.

They keep saying they're guided by science but the science simply gave choices - they made a political decision to follow one thing over another.

They only changed course when told bluntly that their course of action would mean around 500000 deaths.

 

[Paris]

I have no idea what this means but it can't be good

Deadly virus has mutated into three versions, scientists say

Types A, B and C are all derived from the pathogen first found in bats but have evolved in different ways, according to a report by British and German geneticists.

www.scmp.com

This research indicates that the spread of the virus is increasingly adapted to different populations and therefore the pandemic needs to be taken seriously,” Lu said.
“People need to pay more attention to prevention and control … the virus may coexist with humans for a long time.”