Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[witchdoc187]

I think it was similar to South Korea's approach. Test and contact tracing.

Taiwan shows its mettle in coronavirus crisis, while the WHO is MIA | Brookings

The public health professionalism and sense of global responsibility Taiwan has displayed underscore the irrationality of Taiwan’s exclusion from the World Health Organization and its information channels due to political objections from China.

www.brookings.edu

 

[witchdoc187]

I was just reading about it here funny enough:

Covid-19: how world leaders responded to the crisis

While Jair Bolsonaro sabotaged quarantine efforts in Brazil, Jacinda Ardern was quietly impressive in New Zealand. Observer writers assess premiers’ reactions to the pandemic

www.theguardian.com

Tsai’s government, helped by the lessons learned during the Sars crisis in 2003 and having Chen Chien-jen, an epidemiologist, as vice-president, took an extremely proactive approach. Screening of travellers from Wuhan began in late December, as soon as China warned of a mysterious new pneumonia.

Yes just posted a link stating the same

 

[Paris]

Quite surprised by Sweden’s decision. I always view Scandinavian’s as smart countries.

Well, eugenics was still an official policy in Sweden well into the 70s, and up until the 2000's, sterilisation was enforced for pre-ops, so I wouldn't be too surprised...

 

[Nymzee]

Well, eugenics was still an official policy in Sweden well into the 70s, and up until the 2000's, sterilisation was enforced for pre-ops, so I wouldn't be too surprised...

But ABBA

 

[peteblue]

Eu on the ball as usual.

Coronavirus: A test of the West

We are experiencing the first global pandemic unfolding in the 24/7 news cycle and taking its toll, in real time, on our daily lives, our financial security and the global economy.

euobserver.com

 

[Paris]

But ABBA

Mama Mia

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

What did they do though? They didn't have an immediate lockdown did they? I honestly don't know

They wash their hands more than we do, well before the pandemic that is.

 

[Agent Blue]

even his first tweet is in massive contradiction with itself, what a moron

Almost like there are consequences to their actions, but please be careful talking about it. We don't want to upset people that elected these morons on a single kin issue

Absolutely!

 

[witchdoc187]

But as @tsubaki has rightly pointed out there's a lot of factors in this mate.

For one, the weather is obviously nicer so of course people are going to want to be getting out when they can for their walk or jog or whatever. In London, the only option they have for that is a park.

If they are either not working or on furlough or even working from home, people have more time. In London, a commute is probably an hour each way on average? That's two hours more each day and these people who perhaps never thought they had the time before are now using it to get out and exercise.

The kids aren't at school, or the vast majority anyway, so families are going to have to get out of the house/flat for their allotted allowed time and again, in London or most of the big cities, the only option is the parks.

Another factor - people who go to gyms now can't use them (obviously) so they are doing their exercise outside.

It's not just that people have suddenly decided they're going to rush to the park.

Hundreds flock to London's parks on sunny Saturday

As the capital’s Victoria Park reopens its gates after two weeks, the rules on exercise and social distancing remain blurred

www.theguardian.com

This is what I was talking about yesterday. All day just hundreds of people if not more walking around the park. Presumably infecting each other. There's no way you can avoid each other on these paths. This park was closed last week so madness to reopen on sunny Easter weekend in my humble opinion

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

My brother-in-law (to be) is a muslim who attends a Mosque in Roundhay, Leeds.

He hasn't been since lockdown. But it is still open even though it has been instructed not to be. Not as normal as far as I'm aware, but it is opening for prayers etc. That's as stupid as churches opening in the US.

If just a few Mosques around the country are doing that, and if the majority of people attending those Mosques are from a Pakistani/Bangladeshi etc background (could be from anywhere obviously, i.e. my sister's fiancé is from Tunisia) then that is also going to have an impact in terms of the BAME numbers. However small, it could have an impact.

I don't know if anywhere else is doing that. I only found out today cause I spoke to my sister and him for the first time in a week and he mentioned it because he has been asked to go and basically he's kicked off about it.

Could be multi generational family living which often happens in ethnic families, us white Anglo mongrels, get ma and pa to sign over the house and then bang them off
to Sunny side nursing home... Make sure that 7 years is up, no unwanted Tax.

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

There is "emerging evidence" ethnic minorities are disproportionately affected by coronavirus.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[witchdoc187]

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

There is "emerging evidence" ethnic minorities are disproportionately affected by coronavirus.

www.bbc.co.uk

When I read stuff like this I start to think it's planned

 

[Brennan]

When I read stuff like this I start to think it's planned

 

[Tea_drinker]

When I read stuff like this I start to think it's planned

Its most likely due to ethnic minorities having poorer diets and lifestyles and so health due to fewer life opportunities and poorer living conditions.

Actually I only read the headline, I expect the full article will say the same.

 

[Kenshin]

On average 1300 people die each day in the UK. Give or take figures each day, winter being higher per day compared to summer I would imagine.

What I would find interesting that if average 500000 people die each year , how will covid 19 affect this come December?

Relatively unknown at this point but with an increased number of deaths now in a short space of time, you would expect that to average out as we isolate and reduce infection rate.

So come December , will we see a massive spike in statistics in the country? The narrative that many people who have died from the virus would have died anyway , with underlying health issues being the main reason which would attribute to the former statistics minus a pandemic.

Also if average 1300 die a day now , has there been a spike there also? Are we seeing significant increase in deaths as the hospitals are reporting increased capacity due to the virus. We are reporting hundreds of deaths a day right now , is that pushing the average death rate above 2000 a day? Or are many of the hundreds from covid-19 being seperated from what would have been part of that number anyway?

Probably mundane for most people , just curious as to how all of this will affect everything going on given the perspective figures in the UK are only around 60000 from covid-19 which would not increase the yearly average by much

 

[BlueToff]

Could be multi generational family living which often happens in ethnic families, us white Anglo mongrels, get ma and pa to sign over the house and then bang them off
to Sunny side nursing home... Make sure that 7 years is up, no unwanted Tax.

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

There is "emerging evidence" ethnic minorities are disproportionately affected by coronavirus.

www.bbc.co.uk

As someone who lives in family which do all they can to ensure my nana (who has had dementia for the past five years) doesn't have to go into a home, then please can you not just treat stuff so flippantly. I'm glad my granddad died when he did because he was three years into dementia and if he'd have lived, would have ended up in a home most likely. I know how painful it can be for people to have to go into a home and my mum is a part-time carer in one looking after a family friend's mum, who also has dementia – the cost can also be extraordinary. I think they're horrid places (even the ones which are the best of the best) because it's so sad, but some people simply don't have a choice.

On your first point, yes, I agree it will almost certainly be a factor. Just like in Italy it will have been a factor too. There's loads of contributing factors and I was just saying what one of them could be if it was the same case across the country as it is at the place in Roundhay.