Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Billy Dean said:
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Do you really believe they haven't been doing this already Billy?. All they are doing here is a PR exercise because they are taking so much stick.

The only thing new in that report appears to be the logistics hub and website which may offer more clarity on where there may be a bottleneck in the supply chain

Is it effective? Obviously not fully when so many of the frontline guys are crying out for more. But making out they can't be arsed, which is what that tweet is insinuating, is hardly helpful.
 
MarcelsGoat said:
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even his first tweet is in massive contradiction with itself, what a moron
JEBUS_LIVES said:
A Government, led by a cabinet, who by and large, have engendered a reckless distrust of expert advice and factual information in favour of individual belief while deflecting attention away from their failures and harmful policies by blaming foreigners, public sector bureaucracy, the EU, lefties and regulation.

It really is a surprise that said government are struggling to get parts the population to follow expert advice and not think only of their own exceptionalism.
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Almost like there are consequences to their actions, but please be careful talking about it. We don't want to upset people that elected these morons on a single kin issue
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Police should be checking all religious buildings on their day of worship. All they have to do is monitor discreetly.

I wonder if they are. It would have more effect than checking shopping trolleys
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Many will be discretely monitored, some already for other reasons, but rightly or wrongly acting upon such intel. brings its own difficulties on many levels.

In reality, it shouldn't be an issue to confront any religious building of any faith if they're holding services, but I think we all understand it may not be that simple.

My local church is broadcasting their service over the internet, so it's quite simple to still take part as long as you have the technology.
 
PhilM said:
Many will be discretely monitored, some already for other reasons, but rightly or wrongly acting upon such intel. brings its own difficulties on many levels.

In reality, it shouldn't be an issue to confront any religious building of any faith if they're holding services, but I think we all understand it may not be that simple.

My local church is broadcasting their service over the internet, so it's quite simple to still take part as long as you have the technology.
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As far as I'm aware all religious leaders have agreed to comply. Certainly I don't think any have said they won't

They don't need to raid the places. Not initially anyway. The community officers will know the local religious leaders and surely a call to ask them to stop wouldn't be considered heavy handed in the circumstances
 
Tea_drinker said:
The chinese regime operate a sort of points system wherein families who toe the line are rewarded with social benefits such as freedom to travel / study abroad and so on, while those who dont toe the line are left behind as punishment. Its extremely dodgy territory in my opinion.
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Not much different here we just do it by wealth and assets. If we are cooped up in a high rise flat and are seen in a park we find ourselves plastered across various media platforms to be condemned. However, going to second third home largely ignored. Horses for courses.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
As far as I'm aware all religious leaders have agreed to comply. Certainly I don't think any have said they won't

They don't need to raid the places. Not initially anyway. The community officers will know the local religious leaders and surely a call to ask them to stop wouldn't be considered heavy handed in the circumstances
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Oh I totally agree and the vast, vast majority will automatically and happily comply, so in most cases it will not even be an issue - no need to check.

The issue however is those that will not comply, for whatever reason, will probably not have the ties you talk about and may do so through subterfuge.

In reality, the greater worry is not religious services but people who decide to meet their friends and family because that’s more common.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Do you really believe they haven't been doing this already Billy?. All they are doing here is a PR exercise because they are taking so much stick.

The only thing new in that report appears to be the logistics hub and website which may offer more clarity on where there may be a bottleneck in the supply chain

Is it effective? Obviously not fully when so many of the frontline guys are crying out for more. But making out they can't be arsed, which is what that tweet is insinuating, is hardly helpful.
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If you think they have ever had the best interests of NHS workers at heart and therefore done everything they could have done to protect people then you sir, are an idiot.

Pathetic to see blues defend these just to justify their vote. As always with Tories, I hope it doesn't effect you or your family and then nothing really matters does it

Another one for the political ignore list.
 
peteblue said:
Sweden is still running at 10% of the U.K. numbers even though it has 15% of the U.K. population. Sweden is not in lockdown, its economy is not overly being harmed and people are getting on with their lives. If the numbers are correct, and they certainly seem consistent, then Sweden are being smart, but we will see.....
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Their health system will get swamped. They're just behind us on the curve but I think by the end of this they'll become a warning to all countries on how not to deal with a pandemic, if you value human life.
 
peteblue said:
Sweden is still running at 10% of the U.K. numbers even though it has 15% of the U.K. population. Sweden is not in lockdown, its economy is not overly being harmed and people are getting on with their lives. If the numbers are correct, and they certainly seem consistent, then Sweden are being smart, but we will see.....
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Sweden has had 887 deaths, here in NZ, we have had four. Sweden has roughly twice New Zealand's population. We're in total lockdown, Sweden is not. I'm not convinced Sweden's way of doing things is all that smart.
 
PhilM said:
Oh I totally agree and the vast, vast majority will automatically and happily comply, so in most cases it will not even be an issue - no need to check.

The issue however is those that will not comply, for whatever reason, will probably not have the ties you talk about and may do so through subterfuge.

In reality, the greater worry is not religious services but people who decide to meet their friends and family because that’s more common.
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Well, it depends.

While it may be more common for people to meet friends or family (I haven't met any of my friends and have only seen my mum, dad and gran since lockdown, apart from talking to our neighbours over the fence) they're hugely unlikely to be in a large group which would be attending a religious service.

Basically, neither are good.

I'm not religious, so I never go anyway. But perhaps if I was and I had more friends etc who were, then I'd see that more services are staying open. I'm just not aware of it - as I said, wasn't aware of anything like that until yesterday.

Only times I have seen groups together is when I've been out on my bike/run/walk and it has been few and far between, though obviously I know people are doing it.
 
Toffee in Jandals said:
Sweden has had 887 deaths, here in NZ, we have had four. Sweden has roughly twice New Zealand's population. We're in total lockdown, Sweden is not. I'm not convinced Sweden's way of doing things is all that smart.
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Tbf I don't think any countries' reaction has been particularly 'smart' bar maybe South Korea and initially Singapore because they got ahead of the thing as early as possible.

Still baffles me that so little was done when this virus has been around for ages (China and the WHO need to take their share of the blame here too) to ensure the only response available wasn't just for countries to go into lockdown.

But yeh, as far as lockdowns do go, NZ have done theirs right by the looks of it.
 
BlueToff said:
Tbf I don't think any countries' reaction has been particularly 'smart' bar maybe South Korea and initially Singapore because they got ahead of the thing as early as possible.

Still baffles me that so little was done when this virus has been around for ages (China and the WHO need to take their share of the blame here too) to ensure the only response available wasn't just for countries to go into lockdown.

But yeh, as far as lockdowns do go, NZ have done theirs right by the looks of it.
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I think Austria have done quite well too by the sound of it. They locked down very early.
 
ramacca said:
You can't have a logistic 'problem' for getting PPE to where it's needed, from where it's made, imported to or delivered to when you have the Royal Mail, with it's vast network of vans, lorries, aeroplanes etc.

That is unless you want to award your mates the contract and they fail miserably.
EXCLUSIVE
DISASTER CAPITALISM

Conservative Donor Cashes In

On Government PPE Shortages
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This article basically insinuates because they were British companies offering PPE they are ignored as a source as there no expertise in sourcing from UK.
Many UK PPE manufacturers were initially contacted back in mid March for a survey but heard nothing back from Government.

www.bbc.co.uk

UK ‘wasting time’ on NHS protective gear orders

Textile firms say they could have begun making gowns and masks for front-line workers ten days ago.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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