Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

I believe in London the NHS are expecting to maintain a heavily reduced service into July. It would seem sensible to err on the side of caution like, but it seems unlikely that there will be a quick resolution to things. It's also foolish in the extreme to give deadlines (imo), as Trump will experience when the US doesn't open up again for Easter.

I think you’ll find that he never said that and anyone who says he did is a communist.

 

[Harryflashman]

So everyone will be out either first thing in the morning or between 7-10pm?

That's surely completely counter productive and actually far more dangerous than our guidelines?

I think in fairness They imagine it’ll allow the people who genuinely want to exercise to make the effort and go out whilst those using it as an excuse will probably be less keen .

 

[BlueToff]

I believe in London the NHS are expecting to maintain a heavily reduced service into July. It would seem sensible to err on the side of caution like, but it seems unlikely that there will be a quick resolution to things. It's also foolish in the extreme to give deadlines (imo), as Trump will experience when the US doesn't open up again for Easter.

Makes perfect sense.

I'm not asking for any headlines or set dates personally. We just have to see how it goes.

I'm hoping that we do get the peak in the next 7-10 days because that means that we're on track with the rest of Europe and not going beyond them which obviously isn't good. I mean it's not good either way, but the lesser of two evils is obviously better in this instance.

 

[tsubaki]

I think in fairness They imagine it’ll allow the people who genuinely want to exercise to make the effort and go out whilst those using it as an excuse will probably be less keen .

It’s probably more so that Macron doesn’t look out of his window at the Elysee whilst he’s at work and see people defying his will by running, walking etc.

 

[hirons11]

I believe in London the NHS are expecting to maintain a heavily reduced service into July. It would seem sensible to err on the side of caution like, but it seems unlikely that there will be a quick resolution to things. It's also foolish in the extreme to give deadlines (imo), as Trump will experience when the US doesn't open up again for Easter.

Indeed - obviously the Trusts have to work to some sort of prediction though and I was only passing on information that was for internal use (although no one has been sworn to secrecy within my wife’s Trust)

 

[Neiler]

One for the Paddies:

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Indeed - obviously the Trusts have to work to some sort of prediction though and I was only passing on information that was for internal use (although no one has been sworn to secrecy within my wife’s Trust)

Ditto. That was sent round yesterday in our local trust.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I don't understand why the testing centres are empty then. And the people at home are still complaining about not getting tested

I accept your point that there's so many off sick that you can't possibly test them all. But you'd expect the test centres to be jam packed.

That's what I don't understand and why I made that post. Do you know

No mate, I don't know.

If I was to hazard a guess, I'd put it down to a combination of issues with NHS bureaucracy pigeon holing people who are off sick based on how critical they are, ( so something like ITU staff first, but no-one else ... instead of ITU plus anyone else to fill the remaining places ) and teething issues with identifying exactly who is first priority.

 

[spectateur]

France is a great country and it’s people are probably the most sound on earth but it’s been led by idiots ever since the Western Empire fell.

Since Sarkozy, Hollande and now Macron. Introduction to the free market capitalism world

 

[Walken]

Some heartwarming news for Barbados after the Americans seized ventilators from them in a really insular act of arrogance

https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/04/07/cubans-critical-to-covid-19-war/

 

[RAFUH]

Are these stats those that died in hosp only? Could it be that a larger proportion of African Americans in the state don’t have access to sufficient health insurance to survive this thing?

In the US, if a hospital accepts payment from Medicare (which they have to do to stay afloat) a person can't be turned away from a ER/hospital for an inability to pay. It's a law Reagan signed in the 80s. You may be bankrupt after, but you get the care up front.

Now, in general blacks in the US do have less access to healthcare and health insurance (thus my social determinants of health comment), so leading up to this there is/was a higher probability of them being in poorer health and having more risk factors.

 

[Blues Harp]

Got a letter from Downing Street today.

Snap!

 

[xena]

Hes not even a part time PM now. The man will seemingly try anything to avoid doing his job.

Should be furloughed.

 

[RAFUH]

Yeh of course not discounting genetics. To me, with no exp of living in the US, I can imagine the poorer you are the scarier this virus is without the NHS. Isn’t a giant leap to assume African Americans might be the poorer demographic in those states.

It's sadly not.

• In the United States, 39 percent of African-American children and adolescents and 33 percent of Latino children and adolescents are living in poverty, which is more than double the 14 percent poverty rate for non-Latino, White, and Asian children and adolescents (Kids Count Data Center, Children in Poverty 2014).
• Minority racial groups are more likely to experience multidimensional poverty than their White counterparts (Reeves, Rodrigue, & Kneebone, 2016).
• Although the income of Asian American families often falls markedly above other minorities, these families often have four to five family members working (Le, 2008). African-Americans (53 percent) and Latinos (43 percent) are more likely to receive high-cost mortgages than Caucasians (18 percent; Logan, 2008).
• African American unemployment rates are typically double that of Caucasian Americans. African-American men working full-time earn only 72 percent of the average earnings of comparable Caucasian men and 85 percent of the earnings of Caucasian women (Rodgers, 2008).
• Racial and ethnic minorities have worse overall health than that of White Americans. Health disparities may stem from economic determinants, education, geography and neighborhood, environment, lower quality care, inadequate access to care, inability to navigate the system, provider ignorance or bias, and stress (Bahls, 2011).
• Socioeconomic status and race/ethnicity have been associated with avoidable procedures, avoidable hospitalizations, and untreated disease (Fiscella, Franks, Gold, & Clancy, 2008).

https://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/minorities

 

[RAFUH]

Detroit...as if that city needed any more problems