Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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horrible stuff, never was I fan of him but hope he makes it, would be terrible for the nation and global fight against the virus..pregrant GF too..
Some post on here were disgusting about Boris ......LBC now is staff on the front line telephoning in - horrific way to die - and the word stay in is nailed on - anyone from five years old to 90 years old if on a ventilator you have 50/50 chance of living - stay in - as much as you can is the answer - it's heart wrenching to listen too......
 
Just been to Lidl and it was perfectly fine. No queues at all, either to get in or at the checkout, and bar one or two items, they were fully stocked.

Same whenever I have been - which is twice in the last two weeks, oh and popped into the corner shop on Sunday to grab some beers (no chance I'm doing all this sober).

I had to go to the bank yesterday and it was all very soviet, queuing up 2m apart outside, being asked why you were off in, one person at a time etc.

Pass a post office on my way there and back and they're only open for three hours too, so there were people queuing all the way down the street (again keeping distance) but it's not exactly ideal I suppose. Just people still need to be able to do these things and if the opening hours are reduced then there's bound to be some 'congestion' at certain times.
 

Here we go, more panic, more fear spreading from the media.

They're abysmal.

The vast majority of people are following the procedures. Maybe the reason everybody is going to the shops at the same time is because they've reduced opening hours so you only have a certain time to go. A lot of people are still working even if from home so have to go at the weekend or on evenings.

Fed up of it.

The media are beyond contempt. Any report of an "alarming lift in numbers visiting shops despite lockdown" will only lead to greater numbers going to the shops as they fear a shortage if the don't. ******* idiots.
 
The PFA are led by a self serving cretin. Footballers no longer inhabit the same world as everyone else and its seems the more they have the more they want. I saw an argument put forward by Wayne Rooney about some young teenage footballer at Derby, saying that he lives with his mum in a council house and that a 30% reduction in his wages would be a huge reduction in the £2000 per week he was earning. Now indeed it is a big reduction, but that still leaves £1,400 per week (£70k per year) for a teenager playing football. I would bet not many of the council houses in the whole of Derby have that amount of money coming in per week.....
Not really bothered about who gets what, this could be addressed through a fair and proportionate Tax system. However, I doubt this will be pursued, it' just smacks of a cynical attempt to single out footballer wage as a distraction for the easy minded.

 
What I don't understand is all the talk of a "peak" - read on an article that they expect the peak to be in 7-10 days.

How do we know that for sure?
What exactly is the definition of a "peak" in this instance?

In my wife's NHS Trust they were originally predicting the peak to come in May. Latest prediction is for the peak tom come this weekend which if it does is hopefully a good sign that the lockdown is working.

In terms of "Peak" definition I'd say they would be looking at number of daily deaths and or hospital admissions. Confirmed cases is a possible red herring as this is mainly determined by the amount of testing being done on any given day which has been variable in the extreme I believe.
 
The media are beyond contempt. Any report of an "alarming lift in numbers visiting shops despite lockdown" will only lead to greater numbers going to the shops as they fear a shortage if the don't. ******* idiots.

Panic creates panic. Controlling through fear.

It's disgusting.

Let the NHS do their job and frankly leave the rest alone. That's a story from absolutely nothing.

As much as I don't like Matt Hancock, he was only forced to say something about potentially inflicting stringent lockdown rules because Marr asked him a very heavily loaded question on Sunday.
 
In my wife's NHS Trust they were originally predicting the peak to come in May. Latest prediction is for the peak tom come this weekend which if it does is hopefully a good sign that the lockdown is working.

In terms of "Peak" definition I'd say they would be looking at number of daily deaths and or hospital admissions. Confirmed cases is a possible red herring as this is mainly determined by the amount of testing being done on any given day which has been variable in the extreme I believe.

Is that because the government (stupidly) originally predicted that? Let's not forget that their initial models (which they swiftly realised were utter tosh due to a lack of tests) said 10-12 weeks from the peak on March 12th.

Obviously that was never going to be the case. I genuinely can't believe the CMOs thought so. It's baffling.

Hopefully, yep, the 'peak' is this week. It's going to be a rough week. Really rough in terms of numbers you'd think and it's horrid because that's people's lives and loved ones etc.

We just have to hope we stay on course with the rest of Europe (roughly two weeks behind most of the continent) and that it is the peak (so the end of the third week of lockdown into the start of the fourth starts to see the curve flattening off).

After we're through that week, and only if we're through the flattening/start of a decline, is when I suppose we can put a target on lifting measures.

Still see us being in this mode of lockdown until at least the second week of May.

My point yesterday was with Denmark and Austria looking at gradually easing their lockdowns over the course of the next 2-3 weeks, they could give us an idea of how to do it (and conversely, a warning if they get a second spike which they can't manage).
 
In my wife's NHS Trust they were originally predicting the peak to come in May. Latest prediction is for the peak tom come this weekend which if it does is hopefully a good sign that the lockdown is working.

In terms of "Peak" definition I'd say they would be looking at number of daily deaths and or hospital admissions. Confirmed cases is a possible red herring as this is mainly determined by the amount of testing being done on any given day which has been variable in the extreme I believe.

I believe in London the NHS are expecting to maintain a heavily reduced service into July. It would seem sensible to err on the side of caution like, but it seems unlikely that there will be a quick resolution to things. It's also foolish in the extreme to give deadlines (imo), as Trump will experience when the US doesn't open up again for Easter.
 
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