Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Under the current lockdown, we got a strong smell of soot from our CH open fire this am so I have my rods and brush from my younger days and I supervised My poor wife
on how to sweep our chimnley 3\4 of a bin bag of the black soot came down, more than the last sweep ever got .....
Using an old Dyson got the rest up gone straight on the garden border ....
That keeps you fit ..,... :D
Shower needed now.......

I hope you remembered to put the fire out before you sent the wife up the chimney this time Joey ?

The emergency services have got better things to be doing at the moment than putting the wife out again.
 
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In The Lancet Infectious Diseases, Robert Verity and colleagues
7 provide an estimate of the case fatality ratio for COVID-19. The authors argue that crude case fatality ratios obtained by simply dividing the number of deaths by the number of cases can be misleading because there can be a period of 2–3 weeks between a person developing symptoms and that case being detected and reported, and because surveillance of a novel virus is biased towards detecting severe cases, especially at the beginning of an outbreak when test capacity is low. By using individual-case data from mainland China (3665 cases) and 1334 cases detected outside of mainland China, assuming a constant attack rate by age, and adjusting for demography and age-based and location-based under-ascertainment, Verity and colleagues estimate the mean duration from symptom onset to death to be 17·8 days (95% credible interval [CrI] 16·9–19·2) and from onset-of-symptoms to hospital discharge to be 24·7 days (22·9–28·1). The study findings give an estimate of the overall case fatality ratio in China of 1·38% (95% CrI 1·23–1·53), which becomes higher as age increases (figure).
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Estimates of case fatality ratios might vary slightly from country to country because of differences in prevention, control, and mitigation policies implemented, and because the case fatality ratio is substantially affected by the preparedness and availability of health care. Early studies
5,
6have shown that delaying the detection of infected cases not only increases the probability of spreading the virus to others (most likely family members, colleagues, and friends) but also makes the infection worse in some cases, thereby increasing the case fatality ratio.
7
Comparisons of case fatality ratios for SARS, COVID-19, and seasonal influenza in different age groups are shown in the figure. Even though the fatality rate is low for younger people, it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false: even for those aged 20–29 years, once infected with SARS-CoV-2, the mortality rate is 33 times higher than that from seasonal influenza. For people aged 60 years and older, the chance of survival following SARS-CoV-2 infection is approximately 95% in the absence of comorbid conditions. However, the chance of survival will be considerably decreased if the patient has underlying health conditions, and continues to decrease with age beyond 60 years.
5,
6
 
In The Lancet Infectious Diseases, Robert Verity and colleagues
7 provide an estimate of the case fatality ratio for COVID-19. The authors argue that crude case fatality ratios obtained by simply dividing the number of deaths by the number of cases can be misleading because there can be a period of 2–3 weeks between a person developing symptoms and that case being detected and reported, and because surveillance of a novel virus is biased towards detecting severe cases, especially at the beginning of an outbreak when test capacity is low. By using individual-case data from mainland China (3665 cases) and 1334 cases detected outside of mainland China, assuming a constant attack rate by age, and adjusting for demography and age-based and location-based under-ascertainment, Verity and colleagues estimate the mean duration from symptom onset to death to be 17·8 days (95% credible interval [CrI] 16·9–19·2) and from onset-of-symptoms to hospital discharge to be 24·7 days (22·9–28·1). The study findings give an estimate of the overall case fatality ratio in China of 1·38% (95% CrI 1·23–1·53), which becomes higher as age increases (figure).
Figure thumbnail gr1


Estimates of case fatality ratios might vary slightly from country to country because of differences in prevention, control, and mitigation policies implemented, and because the case fatality ratio is substantially affected by the preparedness and availability of health care. Early studies
5,
6have shown that delaying the detection of infected cases not only increases the probability of spreading the virus to others (most likely family members, colleagues, and friends) but also makes the infection worse in some cases, thereby increasing the case fatality ratio.
7
Comparisons of case fatality ratios for SARS, COVID-19, and seasonal influenza in different age groups are shown in the figure. Even though the fatality rate is low for younger people, it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false: even for those aged 20–29 years, once infected with SARS-CoV-2, the mortality rate is 33 times higher than that from seasonal influenza. For people aged 60 years and older, the chance of survival following SARS-CoV-2 infection is approximately 95% in the absence of comorbid conditions. However, the chance of survival will be considerably decreased if the patient has underlying health conditions, and continues to decrease with age beyond 60 years.
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6

So those are death rates involving confirmed cases? Does anyone have a handle on how many asymptomatic cases there have been? That would surely lessen the death rate -- not that it would be any less frightening.
 
Under the current lockdown, we got a strong smell of soot from our CH open fire this am so I have my rods and brush from my younger days and I supervised My poor wife
on how to sweep our chimnley 3\4 of a bin bag of the black soot came down, more than the last sweep ever got .....
Using an old Dyson got the rest up gone straight on the garden border ....
That keeps you fit ..,... :D
Shower needed now.......
Have you got a Dyson Joey?
 
A few more police on the roads here (Ireland )
Mainly just a presence for people congregating
Anyone who is classed as an essential worker should have a letter on them from their employer and photo ID
A few lads in work have been stopped and asked for it but not many.
Not got an issue with it to be honest

My missus works for local government and she was saying they gave all their carer's etc a pass to say they are essential workers, up to now none of them have had to use it she was telling me.
 
A lot of people seem to be just going about their business during the day though.
Its not being enforced in my opinion.

Difficult to tell what real levels of activity are. You have stuff like the CityMapper app which shows that activity was about 8% of normal in London. I would say that people seem to be taking the lockdown seriously..

 
A lot of people seem to be just going about their business during the day though.
Its not being enforced in my opinion.

Depends what you mean though.

Are people still out and about during the day - yes.

Are people keeping their distance, walking in ones and twos / family groups / walking their dog / jogging / riding their bikes - yes.

So it is being observed, as per the government instructions by and large ( where I live )

Past 6 pm it`s dead where I live, to the point where the local general store has started closing at 8pm, rather than 10.

The test will come this weekend, as it`s predicted to start warming up again.
 
So those are death rates involving confirmed cases? Does anyone have a handle on how many asymptomatic cases there have been? That would surely lessen the death rate -- not that it would be any less frightening.


Other than South Korea, I don't think many if any countries are testing asymptomatic cases routinely.

That said, every year a lot of flu cases will never be reported either as people don't go to get tested.
 
I hope you remembered to put the fire out before you sent the wife up the chimney this time Joey ?

The emergency services have got better things to be doing at the moment than putting the wife out again.
Only the Dyson was in Danger - no emergency for the women who has everything. just ordered her a new sweeping kit for her Birthday :D fire burning beautiful now - She's just cut my hair too one in a million mate - No Dyson parts were hurt in this procedure .....TBH she swept it better than the guys I pay.....
On the other hand sad to hear that young Nurse died today leaving 3 children due to this awful virus... not seen much news today - been covered in Soot.....
I can see this going on till September tbh ..... good job I live with many acres......
 
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