Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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To me, Sweden's approach has seemed sensible so far.

4,000 cases, under 200 deaths. They know it isn't serious for the vast majority of people and they know their healthcare can handle it (better funding, lower population helps).

They have limited stuff - no gatherings, people working from home where possible, under constant review etc - but no mass lockdown. Economy is still operating at as close to normal as possible.

We'll see how it works out. They could be in for a big spike yet obviously.
 
not making excuses. Simply offering a possible explanation.

I know, but it seems all anyone who looks into why they have suddenly started to do it is just left with possible explanations. It is a crazy thing to do, now most of all.
 
Thats the first time I have heard anyone reference oxygen support. It sounds dramatic, but actually isnt, and is a piece of cake to administer to a post vent patient. (I was allowed to pop Mrs R onto hers when needed ffs!)

Basically, a vent replaces the lungs till they are strong enough to work well enough to support a heart. Once off it, most patients will need access to oxygen, and its just a pressurised tank and a tube. Totally mobile, like a gas canister you might have for a caravan cooker.

There was a point I had in mind when I started this, but ffs, its slipped my mind.

Oh, yeah. The tanks can be used at home.

I work in health care mate and there are very clear protocols for treatment. The hospitalization rate is 15-20% of diagnosed of that, 3-5% might need ICU and ventilation, but first port of call is oxygen, medication and monitoring. It escalates to ICU if someone's symptoms increase and clinical situation deteriorates to "ARDS" acute respiratory distress syndrome and or pneumonia and venitlation is required. Think of it as Covid-19 being the virus, like HIV and ARDS the disease like AIDS. There are other risks like comorbidities and growing evidance around sepsis and sudden shock sepsis as associated causes of fatalities.
 
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I don’t know what you mean. You said since 22/03 no-one treated by NHS had recovered, but that graph shows 42 recovered on 23/03.

Go on coronavirus worldameter. Since 22/03/2020 no one has recovered. The Tories are pushing the NHS under the bus.
 
To me, Sweden's approach has seemed sensible so far.

4,000 cases, under 200 deaths. They know it isn't serious for the vast majority of people and they know their healthcare can handle it (better funding, lower population helps).

They have limited stuff - no gatherings, people working from home where possible, under constant review etc - but no mass lockdown. Economy is still operating at as close to normal as possible.

We'll see how it works out. They could be in for a big spike yet obviously.
 
Just read a 13 year old boy has died in London with the virus , although not confirmed yet.

Very sad story, can't imagine what the family are going through.

What strikes me as odd is the story itself. It repeats the phrase no underlying health issues over and over again like it's trying to make it stand out. Thats fine if that's the information but apparently everyone who has made a statement has said the exact same thing like it's been instructed to say that. Including the family , the go fund me page , some friend of his sister.

I know I'm being sceptical about the story but it doesn't read like a real story. It reads like an official response that's been scripted , from my perspective at least.

I mean the friend of the sister assumes they haven't released the body because of age and no underlying health issues. When do they ever release the body without an autopsy of some sorts.

Just very odd the whole story, very sad but doesn't sit right with me personally. Especially as reading the 19 year old death was genuine and horrible to read.

Can't link the full story as one outlet is not allowed and the other I wouldn't click on anyway.

That and the ones who are running the story right now aren't news outlets but they are tabloid rubbish
 
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