Current Affairs China and its treatment of minorities

[davek]

All of these groups you mention seem to oppose the CCP.

Strange that lol

Well what else would they be opposing?

They aren't the hard done to normal citizens being hounded by the Hong Kong authorities is the point. They are dyed in the wool far right organisations and funded by American cash.

You really are naive about geo-politics if you believe theses groups dont have prejudices and dont do the bidding of Washington.

 

[COYBL25]

Well what else would they be opposing?

They aren't the hard done to normal citizens being hounded by the Hong Kong authorities is the point. They are dyed in the wool far right organisations and funded by American cash.

You really are naive about geo-politics if you believe theses groups dont have prejudices and dont do the bidding of Washington.

The Great Satan rears it’s head again.

 

[davek]

The Great Satan rears it’s head again.

Who's paying you?

 

[davek]

Police brutality

 

[davek]

Police brutality

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Yesss

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

LOL.

Locallist groups who oppose the watering down of democracy by the Great Bunch of Lads, are hardly Neo Nazis lol

Pow. There it is, Reductio ad Hitlerum, it's the sign of the well beaten.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The UK must step up to the plate here and give assistance to HKers. Anyone who wants to relocate to the UK must be given the support needed.

Its going to take a little bit more than offering a home to a few wealthy people from Hong Kong to absolve us from our legal and moral obligations. It would as laughable as it sounds require a consensus lead by the UK pulling in the EU and USA, to be effective, and then it would decades to address CCP current ambition.

 

[Paris]

Well what else would they be opposing?

They aren't the hard done to normal citizens being hounded by the Hong Kong authorities is the point. They are dyed in the wool far right organisations and funded by American cash.

You really are naive about geo-politics if you believe theses groups dont have prejudices and dont do the bidding of Washington.

Leaving aside your crackpot conspiracy theorising, an expert on geo-politics, as you seem to imply you are, wouldn't use the Global Times to try and defend their position.

 

[davek]

Leaving aside your crackpot conspiracy theorising, an expert on geo-politics, as you seem to imply you are, wouldn't use the Global Times to try and defend their position.

How about the respected - and Washington based - liberal foreign policy journal 'The Diplomat'?

'However, U.S. “investments” and “interests” in Hong Kong have never been limited to trade and economic exchanges. Given Hong Kong’s unique role as an international trade, finance, and logistics center under China’s political arrangement of “one country, two systems” that keeps Hong Kong’s capitalist system and ensures its high autonomy, there have been numerous intangible political activities, including in “gray areas,” in the context of the changing Sino-US relations. For example, providing financial and professional support to opposition groups in Hong Kong in their various movements has been an important tool of U.S. Hong Kong policy, which is “grounded in the determination to promote Hong Kong’s prosperity, autonomy, and way of life.” According to the annual reports openly released by the U.S. National Endowment for Democracy, between 2016 and 2019, over $2.39 million in grants were dispatched to different agencies to support democratic or human rights movements mainly in Hong Kong, including the Solidarity Center, Justice Centre Hong Kong Limited, and International Federation of Journalists (Asia Pacific).

Since the spring of 2019, opposition groups in Hong Kong have gone far beyond peaceful demonstration, and many of them advocate “lam chao,” which roughly means “self-destruct together.” Nevertheless, the U.S. Congress passed several important bills on Hong Kong in a brief time in late 2019, including the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019, which would pose diplomatic action and economic sanctions against Hong Kong in certain scenarios. Also, an article in the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 demands that not less than $1.5 million (from the State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor) shall be made available for democracy programs in Hong Kong, including legal and other support for democracy activists.'

https://thediplomat.com/2020/05/what-are-americas-interests-in-hong-kong/

The US are in up to their necks in Hong Kong and they have their proxies doing their bidding in the many Localist groups they fund.

 

[Axlswhk]

Indeed. It's a complex issue, and there's been right and wrong actions on both sides.

I dont believe our knowledge of the situation is advanced by certain posters using ridculous terminology like "Chinazis".

It's very provocative (the number of racist attacks on Chinese-Britons is a scandal, and it's on social media that those idiots get their vile stereotypes), and quite probably racist.

Out of order. Chinazi is clearly aim at the regime. We are seeing Nazi like abuse towards humanity repeating in China for decades. Only a fool like you will bend it otherwise. We don’t regard all Germans as nazi the same way we don’t see all Chinese as chinazi.
The term Chinazi surface from hk protest forum by Cantonese speaking locals. Used by hker and Chinese human rights activist to describe the regime. Stop trying to spread racist theories that this originated from the west.

The Chinazi, with their wolf diplomacy, are clearly playing the race card by repeatedly saying criticism towards the regime is an insult towards all Chinese and all Chinese stand together with the party as one against all foreign forces. This is the biggest reason behind the animosity towards Chinese.

Ignorant as ever

 

[Axlswhk]

I think and hope that we will support them......

UK will benefit from the exodus. Hker are highly educated and highly skilled in a lot of fields, English language is not a problem with majority of them able to speak read and write. Most of them have considerable wealth and will not drain on public support to make ends meet. I’m more worried about those young kids below 20 abandon and chase out by family due to political differences. They have nowhere to run.

 

[davek]

Out of order. Chinazi is clearly aim at the regime. We are seeing Nazi like abuse towards humanity repeating in China for decades. Only a fool like you will bend it otherwise. We don’t regard all Germans as nazi the same way we don’t see all Chinese as chinazi.
The term Chinazi surface from hk protest forum by Cantonese speaking locals. Used by hker and Chinese human rights activist to describe the regime. Stop trying to spread racist theories that this originated from the west.

The Chinazi, with their wolf diplomacy, are clearly playing the race card by repeatedly saying criticism towards the regime is an insult towards all Chinese and all Chinese stand together with the party as one against all foreign forces. This is the biggest reason behind the animosity towards Chinese.

Ignorant as ever

Who's paying you?

 

[Deleted member 48881]

I love socialists friends in general, but those who are fan of disgusting dictatorships like China are on same level of immorality for me with the ones who think Saudi Arabia is a necessary trading partner for the West.

 

[Rook]

I love socialists friends in general, but those who are fan of disgusting dictatorships like China are on same level of immorality for me with the ones who think Saudi Arabia is a necessary trading partner for the West.

China govt sucks but its govt has the support of most of the people. The reason, democracy isn't exactly covering itself in glory these days.