Blue Union Board Angst

[ToffeeTim]

Out of curiosity, with the blue tinted specs off, why would top players (especially foreign players) have an regard for Everton besides being a stable PL club? We have a fantastic history but these players were extremely young the last time we won anything and grew up watching CL which we haven't been really been apart of. For example Chelsea doesn't have our history but since Abramovich they've won the CL and the league, which is a big draw for players. It's very much become what have you done lately

Everton are the biggest team in the world in my eyes and nothing else really matters.

 

[USABlue]

The thing that baffles me is we know there are loads of mercenary players and there was word witzel was one, yet even offering huge wages hasn't been working by the look?

because he can get loads of money while also playing in CL...probably why he went to Zenit in the first place

 

[USABlue]

Everton are the biggest team in the world in my eyes and nothing else really matters.

Not disputing that, just asking why a player whose never been at the club nor has seen the club's heights would feel that way?

 

[Tramps_mate]

Not reading 24 pages.

Anything mentioned other than BU being utter morons?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Not disputing that, just asking why a player whose never been at the club nor has seen the club's heights would feel that way?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fan-wrote-everton-asking-should-11567858

 

[MartyMcFly]

Well if the new owner read the script properly they'd have known that most Everton supporters deserted Martinez because they wouldn't buy into his ultra-positivity.

Football clubs are not normal businesses. Everton in particular have a fanbase that pride themselves on being able to swallow harsh realities. What they wont react well to is talk about 'giving everything I have' and then being presented with something that falls way short of that.

This is unnecessary damage that could have been avoided. Moshiri and his team have made a rod for their own backs now by not spelling out that in all likelihood (for a time at least) there'd necessarily have to be more continuity and less dramatic change. They've given the impression that the complete opposite is the case (or at least they've made no effort to correct that perception).

No let's not mince words, they gave that impression. They also did nothing to correct it.

However they also said that they would fight to keep our best players. It looks like all they want is for someone to hit their valuation but even if they don't they're still going to be sold.

 

[ilikecheese]

I guess the question has to be asked...will our fans actually boo Everton tomorrow in Ronald Koeman's first game in charge if we don't get a result?

 

[ToffeeTim]

I guess the question has to be asked...will our fans actually boo Everton tomorrow in Ronald Koeman's first game in charge if we don't get a result?

Only if we are utter s****

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Not reading 24 pages.

Anything mentioned other than BU being utter morons?

No

 

[MACCA75]

Have to say, not really thrilled that BK is obviously still playing a big part in transfer talks. Can just about tolerate him as a figurehead without him being involved hands on.

 

[ilikecheese]

Only if we are utter s****

Really? That's just mental to me.

Prob shouldn't try to swerve the swear filter Tim.

 

[Goat]

I guess the question has to be asked...will our fans actually boo Everton tomorrow in Ronald Koeman's first game in charge if we don't get a result?

Yes without a shadow of a doubt.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Have to say, not really thrilled that BK is obviously still playing a big part in transfer talks. Can just about tolerate him as a figurehead without him being involved hands on.

Yea that's become fairly clear in recent times. Pathetic to be honest and certainly not going to help us land a proper signing.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I think it's the bolded bit. Players want to play in CL and compete for throphies. Our current results are far from that, we haven't won anything since 95 and haven't been regulars in the CL.

Sadly I don't think the top players want to join in at the project stage when they can join a team already near the top (wistel situation for example: our goal for the future is to be in CL and compete for the title, juve is already doing this)

Europa league would even be a big help

Do you not think players would know the quality of our team?

Was it really that long a project if we signed 2 20m and 2 30 players without selling anyone. That's without selling and let's be honest there's plenty in the squad not good enough.

At the start of the window we had Lukaku, Barkley, Stones, Deulofeu, Coleman, Baines and arguably Mirallas, Jags. 4 top class players would have given us a first 11 that would have easily had a good shout of top 6 maybe even top 4.

I just don't buy the position in the table argument. Chelsea haven't had a problem and they only finished 1 place above us.

If we had money and a squad to be competitive this season then that's all players would have cared about.

However what happened was when we should have went big at the start and brought in a huge name and proclaimed Stones and Lukaku were going nowhere we instead acted like we had no money and were waiting to sell to buy whether that was the truth or not.

I know STCC might have forced the sale of Stones but we should have first got a marquee in and then sold him early and replaced him right away.

Instead we resigned Gibson and signed a backup GK from Fulham who now looks to be our number 1 after all.

 

[davek]

No let's not mince words, they gave that impression. They also did nothing to correct it.

However they also said that they would fight to keep our best players. It looks like all they want is for someone to hit their valuation but even if they don't they're still going to be sold.

Yep. That's a very valid criticism when the orthodoxy amongst those who herald the new regime most tend to underline the need to sacrifice a big name to facilitate marquee players on mega wages who can make the difference.

To be honest, if Moshiri had come in and said "listen here's the deal: it's as you were in terms of player recruitment policy - after all, it's served us well enough in recent years so we can persevere with that; but in the coming seasons we'll add to the pulling power of the club by getting to grips with the way the club approaches commercial deals and, most of all, I'll be the difference in terms of turning stadium schemes from the drawing board and planning applications (which is where they've reached in the past) and see a very good, even iconic one, through to fruition".

If the feller had stepped up and gave an interview (in so many words) to that effect early doors he'd have had a lot of happy Evertonians nodding in agreement at that prospect. But it didn't go that way and the whole kit and caboodle has been hinted at being within our reach and now we see the beginnings of frustration.