Current Affairs Are the Tories unfairly maligned?

generally, are the Tories unfairly maligned?

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dholliday said:
Not a public vote so feel safe to click "yes".


We've even got a thread on here titled "scummy tories"...they don't half get a lot of hate yet they've been the dominating force in British politics over the last 40 years (you could even argue New Labour was Tory-lite).

Is life in Blighty really so bad? It's actually a fair & pleasant land compared with a lot of what else is out there, is this despite of or thanks to the Conservative Party regularly governing the land?

Do they deserve all that bile? Are they actual evil incarnate? Was Maggie really a witch? Or is the hate counter-productive? Mayhap it's the quality of public debate that's the problem, with its thirst for tribalist venom-spouting over constructive intellectual criticism. See also Brexit & Trump. George Orwell warned us of succumbing to this with his two-minute hate concept, but then again 1984 is being used as a manual-for-governance, not as the warning for which it was intended (and that's a worldwide trend, not a Tory thing).

Britain appeared to offer more balanced, grown-up debate in the 70's, and it resulted in a proper Labour government. The caveat of that being the economy was a little unhealthy, which thatcherism due to globalist business ideals arguably dragged Britain out of. They've also led the way in gender-equality at the very top of governance. So maybe the Tories aren't as bad as all that...and they do get the most people voting for them.

What say yous?
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You attention seeking rat
 
nsno-chris said:
Have a word with yeself ye fox hunting, milk robbing rats
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edge said:
They are a bit like rats, they are everywhere , they must be good for something but for the life of me I don't know what, and they make my skin crawl when I look at them and want to poison them and there offspring.
Other than that suppose that they are not bad.
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I've honestly never voted for them. LibDem back then.
 
edge said:
Surprisingly neither have I , libs are just confusing , what the hell are they , really just what ?
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I had high hopes for them influencing the coalition government between 2010-15 and even increasing their share but the same thing happened to them what happened to my German party of choice: the FDP, where the smaller party gets swallowed up in a coalition by the bigger established party (Tory/CDU) and gets their reputation battered as a result that by the time of the next election their numbers have halved and they get nowhere near governance.

My idealism's taken a hit as I used to believe in coalitions between opposing parties being the way forward but nowadays debate is so partisan, tribal and polarised that fair compromise rarely happens and one coalition party has to take the fall.

Could there ever be a Tory/Labour grand coalition?
 
dholliday said:
My idealism's taken a hit as I used to believe in coalitions between opposing parties being the way forward but nowadays debate is so partisan, tribal and polarised that fair compromise rarely happens and one coalition party has to take the fall.

Could there ever be a Tory/Labour grand coalition?
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Only if there is another world war, so I hope not.
 
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