(Another) Teachers strike

[Tree13]

We tax payers are subsidising private education enough.

Facts and figures to back that whopping, outlandish claim up? I wait with baited breath.

I can only use my partner's private school as an example but there the parents pay £3k per TERM for their kids to have a primary education: I know this because we have investigated the possibility of sending our own children there should we choose to have any in the future.

These parents also pay at least the same tax as the rest of us (some presumably paying more due the 40% tax rate) per year. I'm afraid they are subsidising state schools to a far greater and more obvious extent than the baseless claim you've made to the reverse.

 

[Kurt.]

Facts and figures to back that whopping, outlandish claim up? I wait with baited breath.

I can only use my partner's private school as an example but there the parents pay £3k per TERM for their kids to have a primary education: I know this because we have investigated the possibility of sending our own children there should we choose to have any in the future.

These parents also pay at least the same tax as the rest of us (some presumably paying more due the 40% tax rate) per year. I'm afraid they are subsidising state schools to a far greater and more obvious extent than the baseless claim you've made to the reverse.

Why do people with money always plead poverty ????

 

[Brennan]

Why do people with money always plead poverty ????

I don't think he is...

 

[Kurt.]

I don't think he is...

sorry, not him personally but in general...... you never hear people who have no money constantly discussing money as you tend to do with more affluent people. I have no actual facts or quotes to back this up , it's just a general observation I have made over the years.

 

[Brennan]

sorry, not him personally but in general...... you never hear people who have no money constantly discussing money as you tend to do with more affluent people. I have no actual facts or quotes to back this up , it's just a general observation I have made over the years.

Suppose it becomes more important as you get more of it. That's why it's such a scary thing really.

 

[Tree13]

Why do people with money always plead poverty ????

I didn't. I just observed that parents who pay for private education for their kids also pay tax, thereby indirectly part-funding the state system. I made no mention about my own financial state, nor did I claim to be poverty-stricken.

 

[Kurt.]

Suppose it becomes more important as you get more of it. That's why it's such a scary thing really.

I did read an interesting theory once which claimed that it was the fear of losing their wealth which made the richer people of society discuss it so much.... the cost of living, the price of fuel.......... everyday mundane things to that part of society but a very real worry and concern to people who survive nearer the lower end of the scale.

 

[Kurt.]

I didn't. I just observed that parents who pay for private education for their kids also pay tax, thereby indirectly part-funding the state system. I made no mention about my own financial state, nor did I claim to be poverty-stricken.

and i never claimed you did, i just asked a question... take it how you will.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I see someone onto a good thing and think good onto them.

Resist the tories trying to turn you onto each other. It isn't nice.

So why do you bash the rich? Surely they're just onto a good thing as well?

 

[Blue 1]

To tie this in with another thread:

In 2005 Sir Philip Green awarded himself £1.2bn, the biggest pay check in British corporate history. The pay-out was channelled through a network of offshore accounts, via tax havens in Jersey and eventually to Green’s wife’s Monaco bank account.

The dodge saved Green, and cost the tax payer, £285m - that would be enough to pay for the salaries of 20,000 NHS nurses, or the full, hiked up £9,000 tuition fees for almost 32,000 students.

And some of you lot think teachers are trying to fleece you for wanting to hang on to the pensions they were promised when they signed up for the job.

 

[Tree13]

And some of you lot think teachers are trying to fleece you for wanting to hang on to the pensions they were promised when they signed up for the job.

I only think they are trying to fleece us when they make up lies like "we are poorly paid" and "we don't get good holidays". A starting salary above the national average AND three times more holiday than the national average sounds quite appealing to me.

If they just told the truth, ie "We've paid into these pensions and we don't want to be robbed", they'd probably find a lot more public support. All the time they bleat on about "poor pay" and "crap holidays", they're actually harming their collective image in the eyes of the public.

Interesting points about Green though. I wonder how many people he employs in this country, and how much corporation tax and VAT his businesses pay?

 

[Reemul]

That's crap, teachers do not complain about poor pay or holidays, the usual bull**** spouted by people who think teaching is easy and have never done a day of it in their lives, I should know my wife is a teacher and her all her colleagues appreciate the pay and holidays just not the narrow minded ignorance that seems to pervade the job. As to how much should they earn, you try teaching a class of 30 of today's kids, it's a frigging hard job made even harder by arsehole parents who think they no longer need to be parents or instil any discipline. Teaching our children correctly Is a massively important job and the focus should be on how important it is, I do work for a bank and their admin staff earn 25-30k a year with 6 weeks holiday and do sod all that means anything.

What pisses me off is my wife pays a lot of money in to her pension and fairly renegotiated the deal with worse terms and now she is supposed to just take it up the arse and happy about getting screwed over again. No one would be happy about that in any job, still if you are a teacher just lie down and let everyone piss on you as you earn good money and get great holidays.

 

[Del]

That's crap, teachers do not complain about poor pay or holidays, the usual bull**** spouted by people who think teaching is easy and have never done a day of it in their lives, I should know my wife is teacher and her all her colleagues appreciate the pay and holidays just not the narrow minded ignorance that seems to pervade the job. As to how mcuh should they earn, you try teaching a class of 30 of today's kids, it's a frigging hard job made even harder by arsehole parents who think they no longer need to be parents or instil any discipline. Teaching are children correctly Is a massively important job and the focus should be on how important it is, I do work for a bank there sodding admin staff earn 25-30k a year with 6 weeks holiday and do sod all that means anything.

What pisses me off is my wife pays a lot of money in to her pension and fairly renegotiated the deal with worse terms and now she is supposed to just take it up the arse and happy about getting screwed over again. No one would be happy about that in any job, still if you are a teacher just lie down and let everyone piss on you as you earn good money and get great holidays.

So your not a teacher your wife is yet you are telling us it isnt easy even though you have never done a day of teaching in your life?

Also does she enjoy the arse smashing part mate

 

[chicoazul]

So why do you bash the rich? Surely they're just onto a good thing as well?

Defo. Good luck to those who have made themselves rich by hard work rather than those who attained it by entitlement.

I dont rip the rich, just the policy makers who keep the rich that way at the expense of the poor.

I'm your own personal jarg electronic Robin Hood.

 

[teppic]

Defo. Good luck to those who have made themselves rich by hard work rather than those who attained it by entitlement.

I dont rip the rich, just the policy makers who keep the rich that way at the expense of the poor.

I'm your own personal jarg electronic Robin Hood.

Oh mercy! Electronic Rumplestiltskin flashback.

Best ever put down. Beating even Halewood Blue's 'Touchdown!' on TXBill.