(Another) Teachers strike

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To be honest, what they do with their money is their own business, just as what you and I do with ours is no one elses concern but ours.

Hobbes was wrong, just as Plato was, it's just a pity so many still refuse to accept it.

What are the consequences of people like Green taking astronomical sums of money out of the economy?

What are the consequences of relying on the whim of rich people to provide our public services and welfare?
 
What are the consequences of people like Green taking astronomical sums of money out of the economy?

What are the consequences of relying on the whim of rich people to provide our public services and welfare?

Sorry I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Are you saying now that it's forbidden for people to have money in a bank account because it 'takes money out of the economy'?

On the latter point, how are you defining a public service? Many now regard web access as a human right up there with water and food. Are Google not doing a fine public service? Why do we need the rich, as you put it, to provide anything for us? I get my food (another pretty important 'public service') without relying on Philip Green to buy my 10 pints of milk a week.
 
You don't educate my kids.

Neither do teachers. If you look at your knowledge now as an adult and find that what they taught you at school makes up more than a tiny fraction of it then you really have done yourself a dis-service.

Wikipedia educates children. Google educates children. The free courses provided by the best universities in the world can educate children.
 
Glad we agree on the teachers mate. Wrong isn't it? I mean they do an honest days work and don't get ridiculous tax breaks because they're super rich and were scared they'll emigrate to Lichtenstein unless we pander to them.

Hell make these teachers hereditary Lords!

That's the thing though Chico. You and others here are buying into a system whereby if the government has a so called majority mandate, it can pretty much do what it likes. You're quite happy with that system when it supports things you agree with. Frankly if they do something you don't then it's tough titties. You can't condone the system so long as it suits you and condemn it when it doesn't.
 
Sorry I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Are you saying now that it's forbidden for people to have money in a bank account because it 'takes money out of the economy'?

Of course not. There's a difference between having a few quid put away for a rainy day and having billions that will never be spent.

On the latter point, how are you defining a public service? Many now regard web access as a human right up there with water and food. Are Google not doing a fine public service? Why do we need the rich, as you put it, to provide anything for us? I get my food (another pretty important 'public service') without relying on Philip Green to buy my 10 pints of milk a week.

Are First doing a good job of providing public transport?

What about services that aren't profitable that people rely on?
 
That's fine, but then they shouldn't be relying on British services and British citizens to keep their companies running and keep that money rolling in.

I look forward to the day when these absurd loopholes are shut down and people pay what they ought to pay. If they don't like it, then they can go and live in and operate their entire business out of one of the other wonderful countries around the world.

The money that people like Green are denying this country goes towards things like the NHS which treat his workers when they're ill, or the fire department who'll race to one of his factories or shops when they're burning to the ground, or the police officers who'll stop thieves stealing his hard earned money and property.

If he doesn't like the rules, he should go and play the game somewhere else.

What alternative is there though? We've seen earlier in this thread that many people don't like the state education system, and thus send their kids private, you included. Now your folks weren't then offered a refund on the taxes they spent not getting a state education for you. Maybe your folks were well off enough to be able to do that, but I suspect many would like the choice to go elsewhere but can't afford to pay twice.
 
Sure you can. You just need to earn it.

What gives me the right to dip my hand into your pocket and take money you've earned? Teachers are complaining about just that and you're sticking up for them. What is the difference?

Thank god we've found a spokesman for the teachers who can so accurately and succinctly explain what they're ALL complaining about. Did you glean this information from them ALL whilst you were assessing how god awful they all are?
 
That's the thing though Chico. You and others here are buying into a system whereby if the government has a so called majority mandate, it can pretty much do what it likes. You're quite happy with that system when it supports things you agree with. Frankly if they do something you don't then it's tough titties. You can't condone the system so long as it suits you and condemn it when it doesn't.

I'm not buying into the system mate. I'm more socialist and prefer bigger government.

I agree with you in both our main political parties not being a feasible solution to the country's problems.
 
That's the thing though Chico. You and others here are buying into a system whereby if the government has a so called majority mandate, it can pretty much do what it likes. You're quite happy with that system when it supports things you agree with. Frankly if they do something you don't then it's tough titties. You can't condone the system so long as it suits you and condemn it when it doesn't.

Yes you can.

I agree with a system where David Moyes gets to pick the everton football team, that doesn't mean I think every decision he makes is right.

I agree with democracy but that doesn't mean I think Adolf Hiyler or margeret thatcher were the right choices in the elections they won.

Arguing that if you agree with the structure that leads to decisions being made that you must therefore agree with every decision is utterly insane.
 
That's fine, but then they shouldn't be relying on British services and British citizens to keep their companies running and keep that money rolling in.

I look forward to the day when these absurd loopholes are shut down and people pay what they ought to pay. If they don't like it, then they can go and live in and operate their entire business out of one of the other wonderful countries around the world.

The money that people like Green are denying this country goes towards things like the NHS which treat his workers when they're ill, or the fire department who'll race to one of his factories or shops when they're burning to the ground, or the police officers who'll stop thieves stealing his hard earned money and property.

If he doesn't like the rules, he should go and play the game somewhere else.

Don't worry, they will.
 
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