Current Affairs Afghanistan

[peteblue]

Yes, you silly man.

Please go back to showing us how serious you are by quoting Petraeus and defending endless incursions into foreign lands with no legitimately obtainable goal.

I didn’t want anyone to go into Afghanistan to begin with….but I will bet that you did…go on be honest……

 

[dead_soft]

All we need now is a statement from Meghan Markle proposing that 40 of her friends will give 40 minutes of their time to the women of Afghanistan, or maybe some woke statement about the need for the Taliban to love everybody…..

Imagine being this person

 

[Shevin Keedy]

All we need now is a statement from Meghan Markle proposing that 40 of her friends will give 40 minutes of their time to the women of Afghanistan, or maybe some woke statement about the need for the Taliban to love everybody…..

What have you got against Meghan Markle?

 

[peteblue]

“Biden did not oppose the US invasion of Afghanistan. As a US senator from Delaware, he joined his Senate colleagues in a unanimous vote in support of the 2001 resolution that authorized the use of military force against "nations, organizations, or persons" President George W. Bush determined were behind the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.”

 

[Charro]

Woke, BLM now Meghan Markle mentioned by the same person.

Why, I do not know, but these people have to shoehorn them in anywhere, don’t they.

 

[peteblue]

What have you got against Meghan Markle?

She’s just like Biden, leaves a trail of destruction behind in her wake……

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Woke, BLM now Meghan Markle mentioned by the same person.

Why, I do not know, but these people have to shoehorn them in anywhere, don’t they.

He is starting to show what he is really all about.

 

[BlueTX]

I didn’t want anyone to go into Afghanistan to begin with….but I will bet that you did…go on be honest……

I could not care less what you began believing. What I see is that you defend staying there and whom you choose to make your arguments for you.

It's my habit to try not to lie. I spoke out against both Iraq wars at protest rallies at the Capitol in Austin and railed against expansion of original mission into Afghanistan.

Your choice to believe or not.

 

[Charro]

He is starting to show what he is really all about.

Something quite disturbing about it.

 

[peteblue]

I could not care less what you began believing. What I see is that you defend staying there and whom you choose to make your arguments for you.

It's my habit to try not to lie. I spoke out against both Iraq wars at protest rallies at the Capitol in Austin and railed against expansion of original mission into Afghanistan.

Your choice to believe or not.

Of course I believe you, I myself thought the second Iraq war was plain stupid. I do believe however that it was stupid in the extreme to exit Afghanistan at this moment in time after having spent a great deal of life, limb and money…but we will see how it all turns out…..

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

To some degree I can understand PeteBlue. Some of these random & gratuitous 'woke' statements divert blame and attention from the real culprits: American Neocons.
It's also fashionable (since yesterday) to start about womens rights in Afghanistan whilst non-western women in general are having a very hard time. This time last week, you were a paternalistic etnocentrist colonizer for pointing that out.

 

[peteblue]

Imagine being this person

You can only wish….

 

[BlueTX]

Of course I believe you, I myself thought the second Iraq war was plain stupid. I do believe however that it was stupid in the extreme to exit Afghanistan at this moment in time after having spent a great deal of life, limb and money…but we will see how it all turns out…..

Then why ask me to "be honest"? I'd already explained my actions/beliefs in the previous post.

"At this moment in time" is nothing more than an excuse to give yourself the moral high ground. It's done. The outcome of now, IMO, has little bearing on the ultimate judgment of the US incursion into Afghanistan. It was *always* going to be a failure the moment the Bush Administration expanded the mission beyond counter-terrorism. Succeeding Administrations listening to the Generals vested in the "success" of the mission was a profound mistake.

 

[edge]

I hope, when the EU army invades these shores, that they send some fit Italian birds over as medics, at least

If they do I am joining the scouse Taliban, no fighting just grow a massive beard, and grow drug crops in my back garden.
Hopefully they pay me to do that and not cause trouble.
If they dont well it's off the leash we go.
All hanging off batterd 4 by 4's in a convoy and batter everybody we meet till we get to London,( bit like the Everton mob in the 70 and 80's, except it was Van's in those days) .
Surround the place and do a peace deal, that they leave but have to take all Londoners and the entire population of Newcastle with them that would teach them never to come back again.
If we lose we get sent to camp Bruce , in the balearic islands for a few years retraining.

 

[wm02]

Its whole history is littered with conflict, conquered numerous times, used as a pawn in global power struggles, and that's before you get into the internal conflicts, It's cursed for where it is more than anything as it really dosnt have anything in the way of resources to offer other than its geography to anybody outside its borders, (beautiful country in parts by the way).
Britain has been there fighting on and off for 250 odd years, first Afghan war, second Afghan war and various other times since, between the world wars, right up to the present day.
If you read up on it anybody who believed an Afghan leader will keep their word, is sadly going to be in for a bad let down, can only think of the truce during the Indian mutiny when they have kept their word, ironically the one time they shouldn't have as the British would have lost control of the area, we only had 50,000 British troops there, the rest of the army 300,000 was Indian born and largely in rebellion, if the Afghans had invaded it would have been only led one outcome.
It would ironically backfire for them as the second Afghan war was to follow, The army of retribution, decimation of the Kohistanees and their capital in revenge for the retreat from Kabul.(in the first war) hardly hearts and minds strategy and will have tainted the British memory in that country for ever.
Its never gone well for us or the Afghans when we mix, better to leave well alone. we have never been welcome and never will be, so why do we bother.
I expect India to be supported by the west in the area to counterbalance the other forces at play in the area, large military spending already by the Indian government and joint operations between them and western forces, think there has been two with the Royal Navy this year already.
Don't think we will directly get involved with troops on the ground any time soon, but are meddling will go on.
The Afghan people as will always pay the price, in some ways a stable Taliban government might give them some respite from the turmoil.

Very good post.
Even Alexander the Great had difficulty conquering the Afghans.
Impossible terrain