Current Affairs Afghanistan

[tsubaki]

brilliant idea,
who funds it?
who has the right to send it to war.?
can any one country veto any action?
What language to the use?
Which counties supply it with arms?
What happens to the members own armies ?
does it have conscription, as some counties with the EU have?
then again it's not our problem any more so why worry about it

One would imagine (hope) it would be:

the EU
the EU
this would depend on what it was being asked to do (if defending the EU then no, if invading somewhere else then yes)
latin (seriously every child in the EU should be taught this)
the equipment would be centrally procured but manufactured across the EU
probably most of the effective bits of the national armies would end up in the EU one
no conscription but

 

[arminisgod]

 

[arminisgod]

how did we let these cretins win???

 

[john jako]

That’s like when Gomes tries to take a shot outside the box

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Moreso than ever. Terrible idea.

The United States is a country, the EU isn't, it would therefore work in a fundamentally different way. It's a non-starter.

US isolationism is long overdue. The 'global policeman' idea since WW2 and then even further after the 'red menace' of McCarthyism is defunct. They need to distinguish between global war threats from a powerful nation state, where they'd need to intervene, and invading tinpot countries out of revenge or for ideology like Vietnam/Korea/Iraq/Afghanistan.

Except "isolationism" doesn't just refer to the military, does it? We're also seeing this with Biden's approach to vaccines, and it wouldn't surprise me too much if they don't go a similar way to Trump with climate change either.

 

[Lee Smith]

Needs 'Hearts on Fire' from Rocky 4 playing over this

Agreed.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Someone should tell them Tubey just thinks they're from a tinpot country

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Bit like the time he didn't realise how important the dover-calais link is for trade and goods, strategically speaking.

 

[Paris]

The American Empire is over.

 

[john jako]

The American Empire is over.

Been over for a good few years. Lost full respect from the world 5 years ago when that TV personality got power.

 

[EFCPaul]

Pretty similar to the Fall of Saigon, heartbreaking to watch unfold on TV but what was, rationally, was the alternative? Stay there forever?!

In both cases the wars out in these far away lands were utterly unwinnable, US stayed for far too long and by the time the plug was pulled it was far too late to save any sort of face. Western superpowers are not the world's police, rocking up to Islamist countries and installing open democracies. If the people in those parts of the world want that then they need to rise up and fight for it themselves. We killed Bin Laden and most of the other top Al-Qaeda brass, the militants out there are in no position to launch any sort of large scale attack on us again. Job done.

Biden's done the right thing but at the wrong time, it will probably be his legacy as president but the blame should go to the people who sent us there in the first place.

 

[peteblue]

This is why I can't stand zealous political partisanship.



Look at that tweet, replace the word "Biden" with "Trump", and despite it being the exact same tweet, the same people agreeing with that tweet would be disagreeing with it instead.

There are a few in here attempting to defend Biden, not because of the shambles he’s created, purely because he’s a Democrat and not Trump…..

 

[Tin-Tin]

You will have to forgive me but I'm not sure what the situation is in those places with peace keeping arrangements that were in place in Afghanistan managed by the US..?

No but you said that we and the US wont stand by and watch horrors unfold and we could possibly go back in. Im saying that we are watching horrors unfold elsewhere (and even aiding them in Yemen) and arnt blinking an eye. Unless they carry out a direct attack, I dont think there is any way either go back in

Straight out of Four Lions - great film

 

[Tin-Tin]

Cant explain how brave these women are

 

[peteblue]

how did we let these cretins win???

By walking away…..