You will have to forgive me but I'm not sure what the situation is in those places with peace keeping arrangements that were in place in Afghanistan managed by the US..?
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You will have to forgive me but I'm not sure what the situation is in those places with peace keeping arrangements that were in place in Afghanistan managed by the US..?
Yarrgh
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Fine words. I hope petty rivalries in parliament can be set aside so the UK can help and improve the situation there in the immediate and longer term future.
Needs 'Hearts on Fire' from Rocky 4 playing over this
Its whole history is littered with conflict, conquered numerous times, used as a pawn in global power struggles, and that's before you get into the internal conflicts, It's cursed for where it is more than anything as it really dosnt have anything in the way of resources to offer other than its geography to anybody outside its borders, (beautiful country in parts by the way).
Britain has been there fighting on and off for 250 odd years, first Afghan war, second Afghan war and various other times since, between the world wars, right up to the present day.
If you read up on it anybody who believed an Afghan leader will keep their word, is sadly going to be in for a bad let down, can only think of the truce during the Indian mutiny when they have kept their word, ironically the one time they shouldn't have as the British would have lost control of the area, we only had 50,000 British troops there, the rest of the army 300,000 was Indian born and largely in rebellion, if the Afghans had invaded it would have been only led one outcome.
It would ironically backfire for them as the second Afghan war was to follow, The army of retribution, decimation of the Kohistanees and their capital in revenge for the retreat from Kabul.(in the first war) hardly hearts and minds strategy and will have tainted the British memory in that country for ever.
Its never gone well for us or the Afghans when we mix, better to leave well alone. we have never been welcome and never will be, so why do we bother.
I expect India to be supported by the west in the area to counterbalance the other forces at play in the area, large military spending already by the Indian government and joint operations between them and western forces, think there has been two with the Royal Navy this year already.
Don't think we will directly get involved with troops on the ground any time soon, but are meddling will go on.
The Afghan people as will always pay the price, in some ways a stable Taliban government might give them some respite from the turmoil.
Like shooting fish in a barrel this one
as normal into rich peoples pockets, due to corruption.
I was listening to somebody on the radio the other day say there is a large community of very rich Afghans now residing in Virginia.
Wonder how that happened
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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Highly recommend watching this documentary;
It highlights that despite the best efforts of US/UK forces to train the afghan armies and local police, it was utterly futile, it's quite shocking.
The soldiers from the ANA either defect back to the taliban with a bunch of weapons or they are generally useless and can't do anything without the help of the marines.
It highlights that despite the best efforts of US/UK forces to train the afghan armies and local police, it was utterly futile, it's quite shocking.
The soldiers from the ANA either defect back to the taliban with a bunch of weapons or they are generally useless and can't do anything without the help of the marines.
tsubaki
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TBF we do forget that our troops have stable jobs, pensions, housing, education, not corrupt officers and can count on their fellows.
At the very least, an orderly withdrawal would have been nice, with a bit of planning.
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If history repeats then the US will probably go into a decade long isolation. After Vietnam, they didn't get involved in anything until Grenada in 1983, save for the Iran hostage debacle in 80.
The real concern would be if that happens, the China may decide its time for a shot at Taiwan.
On so many levels, this is such a bad move for Afghanistan and beyond.
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That crap is not a reputable news source at all. I clicked on it looking for an article and wow... what the hell do you read?
Well I was thinking that. Won't the Taliban just do a deal with someone like China or whoever and effectively have it carved up?
I actually believe this is part of the US turning the brunt of its focus to the far east.
I have a friend in the air force... well I should say friend of friends. I'm not very close to him. He's just an average guy in the airforce, just enlisted like 3 or 4 years ago... I bring that up because I think he exaggerates his importance and position with the way he talks about things and I don't believe it to be any great secret he's revealing or like he has any information that isn't declassified.
He's also stationed in Florida, so he's not in the Pacific where maybe it would geographically make sense. Anyways, he says all they talk about and focus on is China. Not Russia, none of this middle east stuff. It's all about China.
Which I think makes sense. I don't believe the US is going to turn away from them too much. Regardless of what the population might desire. There will always be too large of a war hawk contingent in this country. China is becoming increasingly aggressive or atleast they are vocalizing it in different ways.
I think they think we are weak now also. And we should feel some vulnerability here and use that to motivate us to be better allies and actors in global organizations we are members of. Just can't see how we ignore that area, a level of fear exists in this country of China I think in terms of letting them pass us. That pressure won't allow us to just go away in my estimation.
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