Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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I can't see him accepting her as VP unless she ends up doing some MAJOR groveling. He is only going to take an arse kissing yes men/women - and that's true for all cabinet positions, chief of staff, etc.
And no, he doesn't/won't respect her for standing up to him. Look at how he talks about her now and every other person in his former cabinet that did....including his previous VP. Based on what the man says he only respects tyrants and dictators.

I don't think he would have any choice in the matter, if she can demonstrate that there are a core of people who will not vote for him and that amount of people is enough to make it impossible (or at least very difficult) to win in November.

This is after all how he dominates the party now, so there is a certain irony in it being applied to him.
 
I don't think he would have any choice in the matter, if she can demonstrate that there are a core of people who will not vote for him and that amount of people is enough to make it impossible (or at least very difficult) to win in November.

This is after all how he dominates the party now, so there is a certain irony in it being applied to him.
You're thinking about this like he's a normal, rational politician.
He won't be casting any wider net for moderates.
He might on the grounds of sex or race but they'll definitely share his political views.
Like Noem or Stefanik.
Scott might be the only one with less nutty (marginally) views thats in contention.
 
You're thinking about this like he's a normal, rational politician.
He won't be casting any wider net for moderates.
He might on the grounds of sex or race but they'll definitely share his political views.
Like Noem or Stefanik.
Scott might be the only one with less nutty (marginally) views thats in contention.
Was just having this discussion. I think it will be Tim Scott. Couldn’t come up with many others who make sense for Trump to ask.
 
He would make a lot of sense for Trump as it could put a dent in the Biden African American vote.
He’s ambitious but won’t ruffle party feathers. He helps with the African American demographic. He’s a better speaker than Harris and would likely out perform her in a debate. He just makes a lot of sense. We shall see.
 
the 'uncommitted' vote in Michigan protesting Bidens handling of Gaza had hoped to get 10,000 votes but instead got over 100,000
That's a huge issue for Biden in such an important swing state.
They had hoped for "uncommitted" to get 10% of the vote. They got 13%. When Obama ran for re-election in 2012, "uncommitted" got 11% of the vote.

I'd guess whatever protest vote of "uncommitted" that switches to Trump (very small) or stays home (TBD) will be blunted by GOP voters who switch or don't vote.
 
They had hoped for "uncommitted" to get 10% of the vote. They got 13%. When Obama ran for re-election in 2012, "uncommitted" got 11% of the vote.

I'd guess whatever protest vote of "uncommitted" that switches to Trump (very small) or stays home (TBD) will be blunted by GOP voters who switch or don't vote.
Thats good to know about the Obama numbers.
And hopefully it wont effect Nov numbers,
I just have an uneasy feeling that his age combined with his handling of Gaza will lead to a lower than expected turnout, especially with younger voters.
No matter what the UAW say, tons of blue collar workers are going to vote for Trump.
It's a super important state.
 
Decent interview...



Every time a "Biden is too old" argument I cringe, because the alternative is so much worse. My Boy with Cucumbers for Legs analogy barely even covers the gap between the two. Of course this was in reply to bozo curious freethinker DHolliday who pointed out they were both old and what a dilemma this was!

So D, I'm seeing a lot of "Well Trump is (insert character deficiency) but so is (insert Democratic politician) and it's simplistic logic that I admit works quite well because;
  1. It's a coherent sentence
  2. It usually has some truth in it
  3. Pulling it apart every time would take too long and derail the thread.
The first and third components of this logic hold up in every circumstance, but it's the second point that warrants closer inspection, as just because it is somewhat true doesn't really tell the whole story. So I have formulated the Cuco Equation which I hope explains what I mean more clearly.

The Cuco Equation
Here are our two subjects:
  1. On the left is Cuco Martina, Everton right-back and possibly the worst professional footballer I can think of.
  2. To his right is Jimmy, a boy born with a rare congenital defect that means he has cucumbers for legs

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Now, Jimmy doesn't let his disability deter him and his love of football. He plays football all the time and, within the very small sample group of children who have cucumbers for legs, he might even be considered pretty good. But overall, he has worse control than Lukaku, no upper body strength, no accuracy, no pace and any small successes he has on the field are usually facilitated by his loving and supportive friends.

Now at this point, there are two true statements we could make about both Cuco and Jimmy:
  • They both play football
  • They are both terrible at football
The Scenario
So let's say, hypothetically, we're debating who should line out against Manchester United tomorrow, and these were your only two choices for right-back, you could say this to argue Jimmy's case:
"Yeah Jimmy's bad at football, but so is Cuco Martina." This is a true statement

And if you wanted to indicate that you were just taking the middle ground and not overlooking Jimmy's severe defects as a footballer, you could say something like "Our scouting policy is terrible if these are our only two choices", to further shift the conversation elsewhere.

But all joking aside about Cuco's relative merits as a footballer, if we were to line out against Manchester United tomorrow, and give ourselves the best chance of beating them, you would absolutely have to go with Cuco. He's a terrible footballer in the context of professional football, but would still probably be the best player in a league 1 or non-league side. Regardless of what you think of him, he is overwhelmingly more likely to contribute to the game than Jimmy, the boy with cucumbers for legs.

Conclusion
So when you read a sentence like "Yeah, well Trump says stupid things, but so does Joe Biden"; it's true, but severely under-reflects the weighting of how that truth applies to both men. One man is doddery and trips over his words, one tells a population of people to inject themselves with bleach, and it's not even the dumbest thing he has ever said.

Just to be clear, Trump is the boy with cucumbers for legs
 
Every time a "Biden is too old" argument I cringe, because the alternative is so much worse. My Boy with Cucumbers for Legs analogy barely even covers the gap between the two. Of course this was in reply to bozo curious freethinker DHolliday who pointed out they were both old and what a dilemma this was!

Have you thought about turning this into a beloved children's fable?

Just don't go asking AI for the cover art. Jimmy seems entirely too interested in that cucumber.

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