Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Pittsburgh Footy]

They apparently didn’t even care about their own wives and daughters. How could anyone possible still think they cared about the Gazans?

And in some cases, it's those wives and daughters not even caring about themselves.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Oh I speak to a couple of Americans I've known for a very long time.

A couple? And from them you extrapolate to an entire population? Don’t you think you might possibly be in a bubble of your own mate?

 

[bluestevon]

No, you aren't. If both had been guilty of sex crimes then, yes, it would be. ONLY ONE HAS

If trump gets convicted of a sex offence in a criminal court I'll give you that, sorry but a civil court has a way way lower burden of proof, and a court in NYC - with Trump -

 

[bluestevon]

Well they have a decision to make now. They either turn away from elite candidates or they fail.

Biden won in 2020 because he promised to be a pragmatic deal maker and get stuff done for blue collar workers. It was all top down stuff but it at least appealed to those left behind.

Someone like Ocasio-Cortez has real job experience and could appeal to the Latino electorate.

She's a bloody loon mate

That's the type of candidate to go with - although no doubt it'd be Newsom or another man next time around.

Hamilton Bland

 

[LinekersLegs]

No, I said Yanks dont mind being called Yanks. Not the same thing.

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Yank is not xenophobic. They call themselves it.

 

[bluestevon]

Newsom has the chutzpah required to go toe to toe with today's GOP. That's a plus

But I can't think of any Democrat, anywhere, more ill-suited to speak to working class Americans.

But in today's climate, who knows? Perhaps the sparkle of someone like Newsom who talks loud and carries a big stick is what's required. A macho man so to speak with a leftward social bent.

It's an interesting social experiment, that's for sure

AOC - I mean. Just no

AOC would be the death of your party seriously

 

[BlueTX]

Depends if those labourers and builders are legal or illegal doesn't it? If legal they'd remain if illegal then yes they'd leave but errrm isn't that what the law is supposed to be anyways.

Not sure if you're arguing immigrants who are not legal should be ignored or if you're assuming people there legally are gonna be deported...

There's no need for your question. It's well understood, as it has been for decades, that a huge percentage of the labor in building trades is provided by undocumented workers. It's why some of George Bush's biggest financial backers in Texas (housing developers) were in favor of a more sound immigration policy that would provide them with a steady immigrant labor force. Didn't happen back then because of House Republicans bucking the POTUS of their party and it's not likely to happen now, because of nativist nonsense.

Here's my point and I hope this helps: if the law is more stringently enforced, building slows, costs go up, home ownership becomes even less affordable for the consumer, and rents go up.

It's hotter than the hinges of Hell in Texas for months at a time. Very few Americans are willing to work outside in the sun for 8-9 hours a day for the rates builders want to pay.

 

[LinekersLegs]

There's no need for your question. It's well understood, as it has been for decades, that a huge percentage of the labor in building trades is provided by undocumented workers. It's why some of George Bush's biggest financial backers in Texas (housing developers) were in favor of a more sound immigration policy that would provide them with a steady immigrant labor force. Didn't happen back then because of House Republicans bucking the POTUS of their party and it's not likely to happen now, because of nativist nonsense.

Here's my point and I hope this helps: if the law is more stringently enforced, building slows, costs go up, home ownership becomes even less affordable for the consumer, and rents go up.

It's hotter than the hinges of Hell in Texas for months at a time. Very few Americans are willing to work outside in the sun for 8-9 hours a day for the rates builders want to pay.

Will try to dig the reference out but something like 50% of roofers in US are undocumented immigrants. It might surprise some to learn that there isn’t a huge glut of citizens eager to take their place.

 

[RAFUH]

This awful excuse of a human being has been a guest of the new POTUS at Mar a Lago.

“Just Take Them and Leave Me Alone”
By Iranian artist, Raoof Haghighi

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

No, I said Yanks dont mind being called Yanks. Not the same thing.

I don't mind when someone from the UK or the Continent calls me a Yank.

I'd shove a hot dog down the piehole of another American who called me a Yank.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

I don't mind when someone from the UK or the Continent calls me a Yank.

I'd shove a hot dog down the piehole of another American who called me a Yank.

We Yanks have to have a sense of humour (not humor) on these boards or we'd lose our minds

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Joe Biden is knee deep in corruption in the Ukraine mate, it'll come out clearly sooner or later.

HAHA until it 'comes out' I will treat him as zero convictions.

 

[davek]

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[davek]

I don't mind when someone from the UK or the Continent calls me a Yank.

I'd shove a hot dog down the piehole of another American who called me a Yank.

Is that because of the NY Yankees?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

If trump gets convicted of a sex offence in a criminal court I'll give you that, sorry but a civil court has a way way lower burden of proof, and a court in NYC - with Trump -