Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[jal123]

The Bootle knob has resigned,. Good discrace to this area.

Never ever seen him round here, imagine him bouncing through the strand dressed in all that tweed he'd get mugged by about 30 different people.

 

[Mrk]

Oh I don't dispute that.

But these lads are about three evolutionary steps behind them.

I'm not sure I agree - the DUP aren't that much more extreme.

 

[jal123]

Oh I don't dispute that.

But these lads are about three evolutionary steps behind them.

That's the Irish for you

Joke lol

 

[peteblue]

No she really really didn't win in any way, shape or form mate. The Tories might be the largest party, and perhaps they overall have a mandate to govern if they can get the numbers, but Theresa May herself lost spectacularly.

She has no authority or mandate whatsoever.

I agree, but the country still needs to be governed.......

 

[degsy]

Why so ? She will have 319 MP's, Corbyn has 261 and even if you gave him all the SNP and LD's would still only have 308..... she will carry on for a while, until the tories decide otherwise......

pretty much this will happen

 

[evilwebby]

Her election campaign was an absolute disgrace and as you say she will not lead the party into a future election........

She's been given too easy a ride by her party up until now. In the post-Brexit power vacuum she basically inherited the premiership uncontested after everyone else just withdrew - I said at the time that whether or not you supported her, that this was a disgrace. It also meant she wasn't put through any serious test of her mettle. Then as you say, the campaign has been a catastrophe. Everything was bad about it right down to wearing bright red and overcaking her face at her count in Maidenhead.. I mean, for someone who's supposedly politically astute and fashion-conscious she takes some pretty poor advice. Whatever else you say about Corbyn, I think everyone can agree that he is passionate, unspun and honest, and that is something to be welcomed.

 

[orly]

New Cabinet being appointed today.

What are people's predictions?

Based on nothing, I think

• Hammond will be out
• Rudd might get moved into Chancellor role
• Boris will keep his role - if he doesn't it's political suicide for May
• Hunt will finally get blasted
• IDS was pretty loyal last night on the TV, so maybe he will be back in the mix
• Patel to continue with something senior

 

[evilwebby]

Yet 30% for the EU ref last year.

They finally realised that whinging, moaning and butthurting on social media IS NOT THE SAME THING AS VOTING. Good on them.

 

[peteblue]

New Cabinet being appointed today.

What are people's predictions?

Based on nothing, I think

• Hammond will be out
• Rudd might get moved into Chancellor role
• Boris will keep his role - if he doesn't it's political suicide for May
• Hunt will finally get blasted
• IDS was pretty loyal last night on the TV, so maybe he will be back in the mix
• Patel to continue with something senior

All sounds sensible, but I think she may just leave well alone......

 

[kenada_blue]

She's been given too easy a ride by her party up until now. In the post-Brexit power vacuum she basically inherited the premiership uncontested after everyone else just withdrew - I said at the time that whether or not you supported her, that this was a disgrace. It also meant she wasn't put through any serious test of her mettle. Then as you say, the campaign has been a catastrophe. Everything was bad about it right down to wearing bright red and overcaking her face at her count in Maidenhead.. I mean, for someone who's supposedly politically astute and fashion-conscious she takes some pretty poor advice. Whatever else you say about Corbyn, I think everyone can agree that he is passionate, unspun and honest, and that is something to be welcomed.

True but I think he's missed a HUGE opportunity to smash them.

Another 5 years of them in power is a looong time

 

[kenada_blue]

They finally realised that whinging, moaning and butthurting on social media IS NOT THE SAME THING AS VOTING. Good on them.

Thats why I can't praise them though.

Damage already done imo

 

[orly]

All sounds sensible, but I think she may just leave well alone......

I'd be amazed.

She's notorious for being vindictive (again, Osborne and Gove, but also to her staff outside a very very tight inner circle) and she blamed Hammond for loads of things since the NI U-turn. Amazed if he survives.

She has to get some of the 92 in the cabinet, or someone who is their conduit.

Hunt's an utter weasel, has been a helpful patsy for unpopular NHS reforms but now, he's a great sacrificial lamb for public support

 

[davmaher]

They had no need to include anything contentious, Corbyn didn't expect to win so filled his with giveaways. The key issue was and remains our exit from the EU, everything else is noise.......

Which makes it strange that neither of the main parties seemed to want to discuss it. Not sure where this leaves us on the Brexit negotiation front, but I would think it will temper the hard Brexit wing. Don't think we'll be hearing much about "No deal is better than a bad deal anymore". The DUP, although very right wing on many issues, do seem to be softer on Brexit than the May team have been, particularly regarding the type of trade deal we negotiate and reciprocal rights for EU citizens here and ours in the EU. They will be after some convincing guarantees on the Irish border issue also. Interesting times to say the least.

 

[evilwebby]

I agree she is toast, but in comparison to everyone else she still won. No one else even came close, so someone has to run the country......

Pretty much this.

No one is going to pretend that this is anything other than a bad result for the Tories and a miscalculation from May, but the objective facts of the result and the constitution of this country says that she has won the first right to form a government.

Labour did well in comparison to their expectation, but expectation is not what decides who governs.

 

[Tubey]

Pretty much this.

No one is going to pretend that this is anything other than a bad result for the Tories and a miscalculation from May, but the objective facts of the result and the constitution of this country says that she has won the first right to form a government.

Labour did well in comparison to their expectation, but expectation is not what decides who governs.

The Tories do; she doesn't.

It's unique in that she deliberately ran a presidential style election.