Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Bruce Wayne]

Because Jarvis can talk about policies on child benefit, immigration, benefits etc while wearing his army uniform and maybe holding a gun

everybodys happy

In traditional 'man of the people' style, he could also be pictured eating a beef pie under the heading 'Desperate Dan'.

 

[tsubaki]

The problem Labour faces is the divide that Brexit has made all too evident within the party between its working class supporters from smaller towns (often in the north), and its metropolitan supporters in London et al. The two groups don't really have a great deal in common, and are especially divided on social issues (immigration, crime etc.). I can't see really how any party/leader can reconcile them, and they run the risk of the Lib Dems snapping up the metropolitan voters and UKIP snapping up the northern voters. That prospect has only been staved off to the extent it has because UKIP are even more chaotic than Labour are.

That is a bit of a myth, to be honest.

Most Labour support in London is working class - that's why we have more left-wing Labour MPs down here than there are in the North (and of a wider spectrum of left-wing views) - its just that the visible bit of it and the pool from which Labour MPs seem to be selected is more typically metropolitan in its outlook.

 

[flibbyflob]

Diane Abbott really is the worst thing ever.

What I would give for her to be this years Portillo/Balls moment.

 

[peteblue]

when did you last vote labour?

Back in the 70's.....

 

[neil999]

Back in the 70's.....

Comrade Pete

 

[orly]

No, you claimed that it would be sensible for someone with leadership ambitions to pass up on a chance to be leader of a party that didn't have that many problems, and instead wait until its replete with problems and has just been smashed before taking over. I am not sure what part of that counts as sensible.

As for my prediction, I said a Tory majority of around that, yes.

In comes the new leader, all problems get swept away with Corbyn / McDonald / Abbott alliance of doom in a political cleansing of the augean stables.

When Labour only needed subtle adjustments, they should have brought in an old head to manage it through. Unfortunately, they turned to Corbyn.

Now they will need a new person, untainted by losing to Corbyn in leadership contests and a break from the past. Someone who has sensibly stayed out of it all recently.

Very sensible.

 

[orly]

The worst PM of my lifetime vs the worst opposition leader of any lifetime.

Great.

Perfect summary.

 

[JonS]

Not really, I've just shown you exactly what will happen. You just don't like it because you're one of the last remaining Corbynites who can't see the iceberg coming.

10-20 majority was your prediction wasn't it?

I'm a remaining Corbynite who can see the iceberg coming!

 

[orly]

I'm a remaining Corbynite who can see the iceberg coming!

Thing is John, it would have been fantastic if Corbyn could have been effective opposition. Really, he was the antithesis of Cameron and should have played on it all day.

But he put a woman he'd had an affair with and a very dangerous man in a small committee type rule at the top of the Party and essentially suffocated his support.

 

[neil999]

Thing is John, it would have been fantastic if Corbyn could have been effective opposition. Really, he was the antithesis of Cameron and should have played on it all day.

But he put a woman he'd had an affair with and a very dangerous man in a small committee type rule at the top of the Party and essentially suffocated his support.

Honestly thought he was gonna come in and go crazy at cameron in PMQ's suggest a load of mad left wing stuff like free council housing for all, £20 minimum wage... and then resign on a point of principle over his party not supporting unilateral nuclear disarmament

But he has mainly been a bit dull,uninspiring and incompetent

 

[JonS]

Thing is John, it would have been fantastic if Corbyn could have been effective opposition. Really, he was the antithesis of Cameron and should have played on it all day.

But he put a woman he'd had an affair with and a very dangerous man in a small committee type rule at the top of the Party and essentially suffocated his support.

I think he had little choice as most of the rest of his shadow cabinet resigned on him!

I do think the responsibility is a third his own (for being crap at getting his point across or getting mps on side), a third the ridiculously biased media ( I can remember them doing the same with Kinnock and Foot), and a third of it is his own party for not sticking together and supporting him (the Tories also hate each other but they rally round and feign unity to win elections)

 

[Eggs]

...Labour are 10-1 to win the next election, Conservatives as low as 1-20.

 

[Khalekan]

I have a funny feeling this election is going to blow up in the May woman's face.

And that she will not even get an overall majority.

Why do I feel this?

Because it would be perfectly in keeping with the unholy mess this country has found itself in since Cameron's mad referendum foisted the Brexit madness upon us.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Thing is John, it would have been fantastic if Corbyn could have been effective opposition. Really, he was the antithesis of Cameron and should have played on it all day.

But he put a woman he'd had an affair with and a very dangerous man in a small committee type rule at the top of the Party and essentially suffocated his support.

Wait, Corbyn once assailed Mount Abbott did he?

He must have needed quite a few Sherpas...

 

[Khalekan]

...Labour are 10-1 to win the next election, Conservatives as low as 1-20.

I would say the odds against Trump winning would not have been much lower than that at the time of Pussygate in early October last year, Eggs