Why Roberto Martinez's Style of Play Will Make Everton an EPL Threat

[Elong]

Its not really Moyes bashing, its comparing the two and how they do things different. I wish some of the fans would stop being so defensive over Moyes. We're just pointing out the different, like not having everyone back for corners in the last 20 minutes, letting Barkley play 90 minutes, not bringing Johnny on.

Spot on.

 

[chicoazul]

As lids have pointed out it was refreshing to see acute tactical changes during the game that utilised our teams threat. So instead of retreating deeper and deeper to protect the lead we instead switched things round so we could hurt them on the counter attack. Counter attacking is something we should be very potent at this year with the pace of Mirallas, Barkley, Catalan lid and Lukaku.

Its not a slant on Moyes acknowledging that, he's history so I'm not arsed, but its more a compliment to the current manager. Saying that there will be games where we may get undone that we would have took at least a point from last year. As I said the other night though you gain more from a cavalier approach as it will turn some draws into wins and that's a two point gain whereas losing a game we would have drawn only loses you a point. If only it were that easy I know.

Its not onwards and upwards now, this season is likely to be testing and one of transition but performances like this at least gain some goodwill from the fans as they can see where it could be heading.

 

[evilwebby]

We need to be a little carefull with the moyes bashing. However he did it he changed us from relegation fodder to challanging and being in Europe. His last season ended in 6th and always had us best of the rest.

I love the fact RM had us coming back into that game last 20 instead of sitting back but it's 1 game. Lets see how we feel when we lose points due to not shutting up shop.

Hopefully we gain more points than we lose RM way, because we sure did moyes way as frustrating as it was.
Not a defending moyes ****ging Roberto post btw....just saying like.

I'm still very grateful for the work Moyes did, but I think his peak was the FA-Cup final, and he stayed a couple of years too long in the job. He did well, but I always refuse to believe the line that "nobody else could do a better job on the resources we have". I remember NSNO.

The big question: would you swap back Moyes for Martinez if he became available again? I know we're on the back of great win so optimism is running high, but that is really the acid test question.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

As lids have pointed out it was refreshing to see acute tactical changes during the game that utilised our teams threat. So instead of retreating deeper and deeper to protect the lead we instead switched things round so we could hurt them on the counter attack. Counter attacking is something we should be very potent at this year with the pace of Mirallas, Barkley, Catalan lid and Lukaku.

Its not a slant on Moyes acknowledging that, he's history so I'm not arsed, but its more a compliment to the current manager. Saying that there will be games where we may get undone that we would have took at least a point from last year. As I said the other night though you gain more from a cavalier approach as it will turn some draws into wins and that's a two point gain whereas losing a game we would have drawn only loses you a point. If only it were that easy I know.

Its not onwards and upwards now, this season is likely to be testing and one of transition but performances like this at least gain some goodwill from the fans as they can see where it could be heading.

Great post mate, I make you spot on there.

 

[andybaker]

As lids have pointed out it was refreshing to see acute tactical changes during the game that utilised our teams threat

Bang on! For me, Martinez responded to what Chelsea were doing and what the game was looking like. Taking jela off and throwing Mirallas up top, switching it about and bringing on McCarthy was brilliant.

Too many times in the past it was predictable...we knew who was gonna come off, who for and when.

 

[blueblue]

Our new manager is in place now for two and a half months our previous manager was at the club for over eleven years.

David Moyes cannot be air brushed from our history and everything RM does for the foreseeable future will be benchmarked against what David Moyes did or might have done in a similar situation. The comparision is inevitable.

If we changed manager every two or three years the contrast wouldn't be so stark because there would be other managers to refer to ,but a whole raft of Everton supporters have known nothing other than David Moyes.
The fact that the two men are polar opposites in personality and belief in how football should be played just heightens the comparision.

 

[nsno-chris]

Bang on! For me, Martinez responded to what Chelsea were doing and what the game was looking like. Taking jela off and throwing Mirallas up top, switching it about and bringing on McCarthy was brilliant.

Too many times in the past it was predictable...we knew who was gonna come off, who for and when.

Damn right; it would have been Jela off Johnny on, sit deep and close up shop.

It was refreshing to see a manager change his team to try and find fault with the oppositions tactical change. He knew we would be pinned back, his answer was simple, hit them fast on the counter.

You become use to certain things and it was a shock to see a positive move

 

[Tubey]

Bang on! For me, Martinez responded to what Chelsea were doing and what the game was looking like. Taking jela off and throwing Mirallas up top, switching it about and bringing on McCarthy was brilliant.

Too many times in the past it was predictable...we knew who was gonna come off, who for and when.

It was perfect. Jelavic was trying to spin off the shoulder of the defender every time a ball went to to him instead of holding it up and that's why Chelsea were balling us at that point of the game.

Mirallas came on, we used him as an outball to feet and Naismith as a diagonal outball and it changed the game.

I could count on one hand the amount of times Moyes did that mid-game and have fingers to spare.

 

[harry]

It was perfect. Jelavic was trying to spin off the shoulder of the defender every time a ball went to to him instead of holding it up and that's why Chelsea were balling us at that point of the game.

Mirallas came on, we used him as an outball to feet and Naismith as a diagonal outball and it changed the game.

I could count on one hand the amount of times Moyes did that mid-game and have fingers to spare.

You would still have a full set.

 

[Tubey]

You would still have a full set.

Haha indeed.

That's why his "big" victories like his 2-1 win against Man City still had me fuming, because we achieved it through overwhelming negativity and sheer luck rather than being tactically astute.

 

[Moomin]

I wish Tubey would pack it in with his McCarthy bashing.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Haha indeed.

That's why his "big" victories like his 2-1 win against Man City still had me fuming, because we achieved it through overwhelming negativity and sheer luck rather than being tactically astute.

Which 2-1 win was this?

This one?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9475022.stm

The one where we had 59% possession & 11 corners? Negativity & sheer luck? Ok mate x

I'm all for the positivity post Saturday, but re-writing history is tad galling.

 

[andybaker]

I dont think I could tell you last time i thought Moyes made a truely tactical sub in that way. You could argue that all subs are tactical changes but we all know what im talking about.

TheMcCarthy sub was the first of 3 though that all seem to be timed and chosen really well. Stones was in response to Torres coming on and chelsea being more direct, Deulofeu came on to give us some pace for any balls that came out of defense and I know the kid was only on for a short time but them things give chelsea something to think about instead of just piling forward.

Am i right in thinking the Mirallas spin away from Luis was after they had just had a corner? And we had a guy with skill and pace waiting for a breakdown? What a ball by Barkley though...

 

[Khalekan]

It was perfect. Jelavic was trying to spin off the shoulder of the defender every time a ball went to to him instead of holding it up and that's why Chelsea were balling us at that point of the game.

Mirallas came on, we used him as an outball to feet and Naismith as a diagonal outball and it changed the game.

Mirallas was on from the getgo.

McCarthy came on for Jelavic.

Kevin was pushed up front at that stage and did a splendid job holding on to the ball and relieving the pressure on the defence.

 

[Tubey]

Mirallas was on from the getgo.

McCarthy came on for Jelavic.

Kevin was pushed up front at that stage and did a splendid job holding on to the ball and relieving the pressure on the defence.

Sorry I meant Mirallas was moved up front.