Why Roberto Martinez's Style of Play Will Make Everton an EPL Threat

[steken1]

Bet he'd get the wing roulette too, and constantly change the order of them on the plate until he was perfectly happy.

Then rewrite the shift rota's for the staff.

 

[billycopper]

Apparently that's 10 clean sheets in 14 league games for us now! We don't normally start defending properly until Christmas.

 

[bluejock]

Then rewrite the shift rota's for the staff.

Hahaha

"Jade, hey Jade, you go get cheeps and take with chicken, Martin, he will bring the coleslaw"

 

[bluejock]

Apparently that's 10 clean sheets in 14 league games for us now! We don't normally start defending properly until Christmas.

Aye, apart from the odd slip like Howard on Saturday, we've been really solid at the back. I'll probably get vaulted to [Poor language removed] because I was worried about us conceding shed loads of goals every week but we're looking good.

 

[davek]

The most signicant moment of the match on Saturday, IMO, was the Barry tackle which saved the certain goal from Eto'o.

That's what got the crowd raised from its torpor.

Roberto will need to learn that there are certain things which work for certain teams and EFC is a club which wears its passion on its sleeve and the Goodison faithful will play a very significant role when we are given sommat to get excited about.

Smithy says 'Fair tackle': He's been, imo, up to Saturday, paying lip service to the '12th man' stuff in interview. It came across like a soundbite. Post 7.30pm that day I think he realised exactly what an asset it is and it needs firing up with some meat and potato fare along with the neat passing.

The tkli taki is all well and good but it needs to be mixed up with some more robust and direct play on occasion.

I have to say there were time on Saturday, before the goal, when myself and people round me were shouting to get the ball in the box instead of passing and passing and passing allowing defenders to cover.

And the goal itself was a good old fashioned Everton type of a goal.

And this is why I think Lukaku will be very important......his style of play will have the punters off their seats and yelling away in a fashion which will unsettle the opposition.

Smithy says 'Over the Top': I think the goal build up underlined the need for patience: Moyes would have had that ball into the box in the 'first phase' (horrible term) of that passage of play. Patience got it's rewards.

 

[evilwebby]

Moyes was a barbarian in the modern game.

I still cant get my head around his United appointment. A team known for its buccaneering style of play and taking big risks when they're required employing a won nothing Mr Conservative. I'm still convinced its a massive practical joke and they'll all start laughing and pointing at OT one match soon, drag him from the dugout and replace him with Jupp Heynckes.

Just give the United fans the 1st half video against Southampton away last season... then ask them if they still have faith that they've made the right appointment.

 

[davek]

Just give the United fans the 1st half video against Southampton away last season... then ask them if they still have faith that they've made the right appointment.

They're currently ok with Moyes, but think Fellaini is rubbish. Says it all for me.

Fellaini will be there a lot longer than his current manager, that's for sure...and winning a lot more trophies than him.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I think the goal build up underlined the need for patience: Moyes would have had that ball into the box in the 'first phase' (horrible term) of that passage of play. Patience got it's rewards.

Not quite sure what you mean by the 'first phase' of that particular move, but we actually had a freekick on the right hand side & we elected to play it short & work the ball to the left, rather than just chuck it in the box from the freekick. There was an audible groan when we did that, the ball ended up in the arms of Cech & they then conceded the ball to us & we went on & scored!

I thought the aimless passing between Jags & Distin was frustrating at times tbh, as they appeared to short of options at times & then just launched it after a dozen passes, which sort of negates the point like.

 

[andybaker]

The most signicant moment of the match on Saturday, IMO, was the Barry tackle which saved the certain goal from Eto'o.

That's what got the crowd raised from its torpor.

Roberto will need to learn that there are certain things which work for certain teams and EFC is a club which wears its passion on its sleeve and the Goodison faithful will play a very significant role when we are given sommat to get excited about.

The tkli taki is all well and good but it needs to be mixed up with some more robust and direct play on occasion.

I have to say there were time on Saturday, before the goal, when myself and people round me were shouting to get the ball in the box instead of passing and passing and passing allowing defenders to cover.

And the goal itself was a good old fashioned Everton type of a goal.

And this is why I think Lukaku will be very important......his style of play will have the punters off their seats and yelling away in a fashion which will unsettle the opposition.

You cant have it both ways though, fans need to wise up.

As a manager you have to impliment your style and how you want to play and get the team doing it. So you cant tell them to just run round mental with no control, get a goal and then play keep ball. You have a beleif and stick to it.

All well and good having a Moyes Everton go 1 goal up...then defend it like [Poor language removed] with no control of the game. Seriously how many times did it cost us last season? Fulham, Norwich, Newcastle... I know you get the games like spurs at home to counter the argument btw.

over time though, this style of football will prove to be the most effective im certain of it. This way, once we go in front...we should be able to control a game far more effectively.

 

[flowboy]

The substitutions along with the tactical reorganisation was so ace.

Moyes is going to want 6 points from us this season, for those still romancing his past and legacy.

 

[davek]

Not quite sure what you mean by the 'first phase' of that particular move, but we actually had a freekick on the right hand side & we elected to play it short & work the ball to the left, rather than just chuck it in the box from the freekick. There was an audible groan when we did that, the ball ended up in the arms of Cech & they then conceded the ball to us & we went on & scored!

I thought the aimless passing between Jags & Distin was frustrating at times tbh, as they appeared to short of options at times & then just launched it after a dozen passes, which sort of negates the point like.

Sorry yeah, I forgot Cech got hold of it finishing the move off.

 

[Khalekan]

You cant have it both ways though, fans need to wise up.

When I say it was a "good old fashioned Everton goal" I mean the final execution was old Everton.

Clever cross for one side of the box beyond the back stick....the main striker heads the ball back across goal...the secondary striker puts it in the net.

And all this after a patient build up inolving Coleman, Barkley and Ossie .......but a patient build up which began when Barry hunted down a Chelsea player and took the ball off've him.

It actually combined the old and the new Everton in quite dramatic fashion.

Big Bob used to head back across the goal for Jimmy Pearson or Andy King back in the day.

And I recall being at The Dell for a cup tie circa 1980 when Peter Eastoe set one up for Imre Varadi in similiar fashion only for the 'keeper to tip it over the bar.

(good job as it happens because the replay at Goodison was a tremendous evening with Eamon O'Keefe winning the game with a cracking goal at the Street End in extra time)

So in my opinion we can "have it both ways" and that goal was a perfect illustration of it.

 

[johnnydawg68]

You have to ask yourself, would you rather we pass it back and forth in our end looking for an angle to play it up the field or just get bored and lump it forward. Remember, we don't have Fellaini to move further up the field and win headers or bring it down with his chest (both of which he was fantastic at).

I'd rather be patient and find a way through than try and play pinball.

 

[Allezfan]

You have to ask yourself, would you rather we pass it back and forth in our end looking for an angle to play it up the field or just get bored and lump it forward. Remember, we don't have Fellaini to move further up the field and win headers or bring it down with his chest (both of which he was fantastic at).

I'd rather be patient and find a way through than try and play pinball.

People are talking about a change in styles, but honestly I don't see it.

I think we're playing pretty much like we did last year, only like you say we're more patient and less likely to panic and hit the early ball. Which is what we needed to play last year, when we were always better at the pass and move stuff than the long ball anyway.

People talk about how we've had more posession but that's not actually true (the three games we played both years, chelsea at home, west brom at home and norwich away, we've actually had less possession this season than we did last year in every one of them) just as an average it's higher because cardiff are there and Man U, Arsenal, Spurs etc aren't.

It's very much not the Kevin Keegan style 4-4 stuff people were expecting. Which is fine, we needed evoloution not revolution, and that's what we've got.

 

[Goat]

I still dont care how we play, we won, thats the only thing I will ever care about.