Unsworth should have been kept in charge

[Charles Hawtrey]

Can't agree with that OP. We'd be looking at relegation. Unsworth has no clue how to manage at this level. What we should have done was not put all our eggs in one basket with Silva, had a list of three or four decent level managers, and then gone after them instead of panicking and listening to Walsh. The season was a write off anyways, so the new gaffer would have had an entire half season, plus a transfer window, to sort this mess out and get us up and running for the first game of next season.

Was the season a complete write off when the BFS came in? I think we were still in the FA cup?

 

[ilikecheese]

I think Moshiri was as well
Know nothing serial panic merchant, making mistakes then compounding them

Yeah perhaps.

The thought of relegation at a time when the club is trying to secure a new stadium would have been a disaster on top of a disaster. I can understand a knee jerk reaction to some degree.

 

[degsy]

Should've just kept Ronko and saved us a few mill. There is enough crap teams that we'd of finished 17th anyway.

You had to look quite hard to see that fact when we'd just got snotted by Arsenal and were in 18th position
Prior to the W Ham game we were 16th, 2 pts above the bottom 3
After the W Ham game we were 13th, 5pts
Allardyce has us 9th/10th
One set of baby steps compared to another
Meh

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

We seen some promising youngsters , and less hoofball, though!
He could have stayed on a bit longer performance of the season was West Ham at home!

And still is....

 

[Agent Blue]

He seems to have removed any vestige of fight in the team, and refuses to take any responsibility.

But that would imply that we had fight in the team prior to him coming here. Have you watched any of our games this season?

 

[Rob R]

Before i put my point across here, let me state I am aware of how dismal some of the performances with Rhino in charge where. However, were they any worse than what we are currently witnessing? I think not.

What allardyce and his team have done is rubber stamp the disillusionment amongst the fan base which Koeman had begun. Whilst performances under Unsworth were generally poor, there was a bit more of the backs to the wall attitude which generated a little fight throughout the club (Watford home for example).

Now let's consider the games Allardyce has won whilst in charge.
Huddersfield (h)
Swansea (h)
Newcastle (a)
Leicester (h)
Palace (h)

I honestly believe that we would have won all those games had Unsworth remained in charge and ended up floating round mid table as we are now. Huddersfield and Swansea were woeful at the time and required only two crap ish performances from Ourselves to beat them. Newcastle we were lucky but still it was two poor teams. Leicester and Palace we were helped massively by circumstances and both Zaha and Mahrez missing. Granted, Allardyce has picked up odd points here and there through his park the bus approach, but again, maybe we would have beaten WBA on one occasion which would compensate for another draw/loss elsewhere.

Essentially, the board panicked after Southampton and were panicked into making rotten managerial and coaching appointments which is ultimately going to do nothing other than create a further divide between the fans and the club and then cost the club another small fortune to pay them all off if (likely when) they are removed. If the board had given Unsy the games against Huddersfield and Swansea, won the, both and them come out and stated he is the Mann for the rest of the season as anyone else we may want isn't currently available, I think most Evertonians would have accepted that as a stop gap.

As fans who go week in week out we should expect better and demand better from 'professionals' who are in charge of the club.

Yes and don’t forget when Allardyce was appointed, Unsworth’s last premier league game in charge was against West Ham at home. The Hammers were no pushovers yet we thrashed them 4-0 with the team Unsworth selected. Allardyce was a panic appointment.

 

[Khalekan]

Before i put my point across here, let me state I am aware of how dismal some of the performances with Rhino in charge where. However, were they any worse than what we are currently witnessing? I think not.

What allardyce and his team have done is rubber stamp the disillusionment amongst the fan base which Koeman had begun. Whilst performances under Unsworth were generally poor, there was a bit more of the backs to the wall attitude which generated a little fight throughout the club (Watford home for example).

Now let's consider the games Allardyce has won whilst in charge.
Huddersfield (h)
Swansea (h)
Newcastle (a)
Leicester (h)
Palace (h)

I honestly believe that we would have won all those games had Unsworth remained in charge and ended up floating round mid table as we are now. Huddersfield and Swansea were woeful at the time and required only two crap ish performances from Ourselves to beat them. Newcastle we were lucky but still it was two poor teams. Leicester and Palace we were helped massively by circumstances and both Zaha and Mahrez missing. Granted, Allardyce has picked up odd points here and there through his park the bus approach, but again, maybe we would have beaten WBA on one occasion which would compensate for another draw/loss elsewhere.

Essentially, the board panicked after Southampton and were panicked into making rotten managerial and coaching appointments which is ultimately going to do nothing other than create a further divide between the fans and the club and then cost the club another small fortune to pay them all off if (likely when) they are removed. If the board had given Unsy the games against Huddersfield and Swansea, won the, both and them come out and stated he is the Mann for the rest of the season as anyone else we may want isn't currently available, I think most Evertonians would have accepted that as a stop gap.

As fans who go week in week out we should expect better and demand better from 'professionals' who are in charge of the club.

Good points.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Fat Sam was brought in because we literally didn’t look like getting another point all season.
He’s odious and rightly hated so let him get his 40 points then throw the fat c word in the sea and start rebuilding our mediocrity

 

[MickA]

His severe lack of tactical awareness also undermined him.

And yet didn't Conte effectively do against Barca what Unsworth did at Lyon (though obviously with far superior players)

 

[Nymzee]

Talked the talk but couldn’t walk the walk.

 

[CairnsToffee]

Needs to look after a few smaller clubs in League 1 or the Championship first, he was totally out of his depth and would have took us down

 

[TheFinnFan]

Before i put my point across here, let me state I am aware of how dismal some of the performances with Rhino in charge where. However, were they any worse than what we are currently witnessing? I think not.

What allardyce and his team have done is rubber stamp the disillusionment amongst the fan base which Koeman had begun. Whilst performances under Unsworth were generally poor, there was a bit more of the backs to the wall attitude which generated a little fight throughout the club (Watford home for example).

Now let's consider the games Allardyce has won whilst in charge.
Huddersfield (h)
Swansea (h)
Newcastle (a)
Leicester (h)
Palace (h)

I honestly believe that we would have won all those games had Unsworth remained in charge and ended up floating round mid table as we are now. Huddersfield and Swansea were woeful at the time and required only two crap ish performances from Ourselves to beat them. Newcastle we were lucky but still it was two poor teams. Leicester and Palace we were helped massively by circumstances and both Zaha and Mahrez missing. Granted, Allardyce has picked up odd points here and there through his park the bus approach, but again, maybe we would have beaten WBA on one occasion which would compensate for another draw/loss elsewhere.

Essentially, the board panicked after Southampton and were panicked into making rotten managerial and coaching appointments which is ultimately going to do nothing other than create a further divide between the fans and the club and then cost the club another small fortune to pay them all off if (likely when) they are removed. If the board had given Unsy the games against Huddersfield and Swansea, won the, both and them come out and stated he is the Mann for the rest of the season as anyone else we may want isn't currently available, I think most Evertonians would have accepted that as a stop gap.

As fans who go week in week out we should expect better and demand better from 'professionals' who are in charge of the club.

I disagree. If Unsworth would have given more time i believe we would be in relegation battle. He's not good enough, yet atleast.
I would put him into caretaking position now though. That he can manage.
Sack Sam and appoint Unsworth and sort proper manager right after season is done

 

[Bob Elstone]

If unsworth was still in charge we’d be bottom three I’m convinced of it.

Showed in his brief stint we were terrible.

 

[Joey66]

If unsworth was still in charge we’d be bottom three I’m convinced of it.

Showed in his brief stint we were terrible.

so we have improved the woodwork and iffy pens have saved sam !

 

[Nymzee]

I disagree. If Unsworth would have given more time i believe we would be in relegation battle. He's not good enough, yet atleast.
I would put him into caretaking position now though. That he can manage.
Sack Sam and appoint Unsworth and sort proper manager right after season is done

He was a caretaker then though so wouldn’t he be a risk 10 games to go? We’re not safe yet.