Current Affairs Ukraine

[Yarrgh]

As I said it’s probably just a feint to draw off Ukranian troops and equipment from the Donbas front.

Suck 'em North. Hit them South. What concerns me is how well fortified non-Donbass areas are. Ukraine had been prepping since 2014 - has it done the same elsewhere?

I presume that the exodus of civilians from Mykolaiv is a pretty big indicator of the next target.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Price caps on oil and gas from EU/ west? This is potentially a big one. Be interesting to see if it's implemented and what the Russian response is.

Would need global buy-in to be effective. India won’t be too happy and will take some persuading.

In response Russia would probably drop production even more - requiring other countries to up their game.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Suck 'em North. Hit them South. What concerns me is how well fortified non-Donbass areas are. Ukraine had been prepping since 2014 - has it done the same elsewhere?

I presume that the exodus of civilians from Mykolaiv is a pretty big indicator of the next target.

I see the south as the place Ukraine could turn the tide and make Russia re-assess.

I think Mykolaiv is safe but you wouldn’t want to hang out there sipping sundowners on the porch with Russian missiles whizzing past.

 

[tsubaki]

Price caps on oil and gas from EU/ west? This is potentially a big one. Be interesting to see if it's implemented and what the Russian response is.

it is fundamentally unworkable

repairing relations with / lifting sanctions on Iran and Venezuela would do vastly more in that regard, as would fixing Libya

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

My same wishes. I don’t wish death to many people but Putin and Trump are among those human beings that I wish gone and just by getting rid of those two the world be a much better place.

They are literally the two whose deaths I will celebrate!

 

[davids]

it is fundamentally unworkable

repairing relations with / lifting sanctions on Iran and Venezuela would do vastly more in that regard, as would fixing Libya

The US and OPEC could up output,but why should they while vast profits are to be made.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

it is fundamentally unworkable

repairing relations with / lifting sanctions on Iran and Venezuela would do vastly more in that regard, as would fixing Libya

Funny you should mention that.

Rumours abound atm

 

[devogue]

Holy unfortunate cropping of the hyperlink Batman
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I noticed that as well lol

 

[summerisle]

Big unit alert.

 

[davids]

it is fundamentally unworkable

repairing relations with / lifting sanctions on Iran and Venezuela would do vastly more in that regard, as would fixing Libya

Lifting sanctions on Iran...
"Iran has embraced Russia’s anti-Western narrative over Ukraine, portraying the intervention as a harbinger for the West’s decline. Tehran’s proclivity to capitalize on Moscow’s discontent with the West was apparent in Raisi’s speech to the Russian Duma in January, which devoted significant attention to condemning NATO “aggression.” Official statements and state-linked media outlets have been largely sympathetic to the Russian side, a notable shift from internal divisions within Iran surrounding Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014"
Possibly the biggest danger from this whole situation is that if, as Boris Johnson and others on this thread are calling for,Russia is fought back to its own border by Ukrainian troops ( however unlikely that might be) then rather than Putin using his nuclear option he may just supply Iran with enough atomic material for them to attack the West via Israel.

 

[devogue]

Lifting sanctions on Iran...
"Iran has embraced Russia’s anti-Western narrative over Ukraine, portraying the intervention as a harbinger for the West’s decline. Tehran’s proclivity to capitalize on Moscow’s discontent with the West was apparent in Raisi’s speech to the Russian Duma in January, which devoted significant attention to condemning NATO “aggression.” Official statements and state-linked media outlets have been largely sympathetic to the Russian side, a notable shift from internal divisions within Iran surrounding Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014"
Possibly the biggest danger from this whole situation is that if, as Boris Johnson and others on this thread are calling for,Russia is fought back to its own border by Ukrainian troops ( however unlikely that might be) then rather than Putin using his nuclear option he may just supply Iran with enough atomic material for them to attack the West via Israel.

Israel would 100% attack before Iran was able to finish their bomb imo, Mossad seems to know all the ins and outs of Iran's nuclear program based on how many Iranian scientists they assassinate. Also Israel has their own nuclear bombs so Iran would be wiped off the map instantly if they did launch a nuke at israel.

 

[davids]

Israel would 100% attack before Iran was able to finish their bomb imo, Mossad seems to know all the ins and outs of Iran's nuclear program based on how many Iranian scientists they assassinate. Also Israel has their own nuclear bombs so Iran would be wiped off the map instantly if they did launch a nuke at israel.

Doubt they'd "launch" anything. You do realise an atomic device can fit in the back of a Transit van?

 

[Yarrgh]

Lifting sanctions on Iran...
"Iran has embraced Russia’s anti-Western narrative over Ukraine, portraying the intervention as a harbinger for the West’s decline. Tehran’s proclivity to capitalize on Moscow’s discontent with the West was apparent in Raisi’s speech to the Russian Duma in January, which devoted significant attention to condemning NATO “aggression.” Official statements and state-linked media outlets have been largely sympathetic to the Russian side, a notable shift from internal divisions within Iran surrounding Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014"
Possibly the biggest danger from this whole situation is that if, as Boris Johnson and others on this thread are calling for,Russia is fought back to its own border by Ukrainian troops ( however unlikely that might be) then rather than Putin using his nuclear option he may just supply Iran with enough atomic material for them to attack the West via Israel.

Syria + Iran on side would make Russia quite influential in that area. Turkey refusing new sanctions also interesting. Mind you, this is purely speculation.

How are relations between Israel and Russia? Could be interesting.

 

[Yarrgh]

Doubt they'd "launch" anything. You do realise an atomic device can fit in the back of a Transit van?

Israel might stop a transit van with Iranian number plates and a honking big thermonuclear device strapped on the roof rack.

 

[davids]

Syria + Iran on side would make Russia quite influential in that area. Turkey refusing new sanctions also interesting. Mind you, this is purely speculation.

How are relations between Israel and Russia? Could be interesting.

Volodymyr Zelensky Blasts Israel Over Refusal To Sanction Russia

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday intensified his criticism of Israel's refusal to sanction Russia, during an address by the Jewish leader to the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

www.ndtv.com