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[peteblue]

It should be in everyone's interests to give him as many opportunities to stop this as possible

There comes a point that whatever the pain you give him nothing. I want Ukraine to destroy the Russian forces in and around Ukraine, push them out and show the world that Putin and his much feared forces are a spent force. I want the West to continue providing whatever armaments are required and not to close this down too early. Putin needs to be removed, and only visible and abject defeat will do it……

 

[peteblue]

So Putin can rest easy. The UK won't come.to the aid of Sweden if they're attacked. Did he suggest an 'oven-ready' mutual defense deal?

For now it's united.
The war is slowly evolving from a regional to a local conflict though. Soon it won't dominate the headlines anymore.

We have
1. France and Germany scratching their heads. How long will their ppl accept the high fuel prices/inflation and other consequences? Since Putin didn't escalate the war on may 9th, some feel they have to offer him another opportunity 'to land'.
2. The Poles have ambitions of their own. They feel they can gain influence if Ukraine wins this war. They feel like they can lead a socially conservative 'eastern bloc' within the E.U. and that their masculine stance on the war will help them to get there.
3. You have Hungary/Austria pushing for exemptions to sanctions
4. The UK barks a lot. The lack of international reaction underlines the international irrelevance.
5. The US are just happy whatever happens. Selling weapons and weakening the Russians at the same time. Ideal. + They're buying loyality in Europe with their actions.

The USA, U.K. and Russia supposedly guaranteed Ukraines safety after giving up nuclear weapons. The big mistake was allowing France and Germany to oversea the Minsk agreement with Russia…..

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

So Putin can rest easy. The UK won't come.to the aid of Sweden if they're attacked. Did he suggest an 'oven-ready' mutual defense deal?

For now it's united.
The war is slowly evolving from a regional to a local conflict though. Soon it won't dominate the headlines anymore.

We have
1. France and Germany scratching their heads. How long will their ppl accept the high fuel prices/inflation and other consequences? Since Putin didn't escalate the war on may 9th, some feel they have to offer him another opportunity 'to land'.
2. The Poles have ambitions of their own. They feel they can gain influence if Ukraine wins this war. They feel like they can lead a socially conservative 'eastern bloc' within the E.U. and that their masculine stance on the war will help them to get there.
3. You have Hungary/Austria pushing for exemptions to sanctions
4. The UK barks a lot. The lack of international reaction underlines the international irrelevance.
5. The US are just happy whatever happens. Selling weapons and weakening the Russians at the same time. Ideal. + They're buying loyality in Europe with their actions.

Your natural position is one of weakness and holds no weight. ?

 

[verreauxi]

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

Your natural position is one of weakness and holds no weight. ?

I don't understand what you mean by that?

 

[Tramps_mate]

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Anybody posted this? Interesting

I said this a while back. He looks like he's got cancer. I don't think he's got long to live. Hence this war!

 

[thirdmantackle]

I said this a while back. He looks like he's got cancer. I don't think he's got long to live. Hence this war!

To be honest, that could easily be a body double with a load of surgery

 

[Lobster Johnson]

The USA, U.K. and Russia supposedly guaranteed Ukraines safety after giving up nuclear weapons. The big mistake was allowing France and Germany to oversea the Minsk agreement with Russia…..

Cna't trust Johnny Foreigner to oversee a treaty, wot?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Looks like the Ukes wiped out an entire BTG in one engagement. Talk of approx 1000 Ru infantry dead + a shed load of tanks, IFV’s AFV’s etc…

 

[spectateur]

Cna't trust Johnny Foreigner to oversee a treaty, wot?

Unless it's an American.

 

[peteblue]

Cna't trust Germany to oversee a treaty, wot?

Correct…..

 

[devogue]

 

[Taifi gorm]

Cna't trust Johnny Foreigner to oversee a treaty, wot?

Tories and treaties not a great mix.

 

[Bluerover]

I said this a while back. He looks like he's got cancer. I don't think he's got long to live. Hence this war!

There is a history of Soviet leaders that were actually dead for quite a while before it was made public - Probably used doppelgangers for public appearances

 

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