Current Affairs Ukraine

[Noisy noise annoys]

Biden is an idiot and should be kept well away from making speaches. Macron had to put him down the other day saying it is unwise to do things to escalate the war either by actions or words.
Raabs comments are equally unhelpful, you should never trap a rat in a corner.

So everyone has to appease the nutter who is murdering women and kids?!?!
No chance

 

[Yarrgh]

If we judge by what is happening and not what is being said, there doesn't appear to be much change does there?

Meanwhile Russia and China having a tete-a-tete.

 

[NathDogg]

Big bad red mad Vlad's latest press conference.....

 

[bluebud]

Irpin, Bucha and Hostomel, three small very modern cities that Ukraine has just liberated from the Orc invaders.

 

[paultheblue]

So everyone has to appease the nutter who is murdering women and kids?!?!
No chance

So everyone has to appease the nutter who is murdering women and kids?!?!
No chance

That's not what I'm saying, Biden suggesting Putin is taken out or Raab talking about jailing him for war crimes isn't going to help the women and kids getting murdered which should be the priority of all politicians
There is a time and a place for retribution

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

That's not what I'm saying, Biden suggesting Putin is taken out or Raab talking about jailing him for war crimes isn't going to help the women and kids getting murdered which should be the priority of all politicians
There is a time and a place for retribution

Biden saying that putin cannot remain in charge needed saying. Meanwhile, macron is massaging the murdering gits ego. F*** Pussyfooting around now, let him know he’s gone too far

 

[Robert Heenan]

We shouldn't pussyfoot around. We (NATO) should move tens of thousands of troops into West Ukraine. This will give a massive confidence and support to the Ukrainian army to finish the Russians off once and for all in East Ukraine after which retaking Crimea will be the objective

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Russian units have suffered such heavy losses they have had to flee Ukraine, British MoD reveals as Zelensky reacts with scepticism to Putin's offer to withdraw troops from Kyiv​

Russian units suffered such heavy losses they have had to flee Ukraine

The Kremlin has yet to capture any major city in its month-long invasion of its neighbour, and yesterday promised to 'radically' reduce military operations in some areas.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Russian units are suffering such heavy losses in Ukraine that they have been forced to flee home and to neighbouring Belarus.

Thanks for that Bob

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

We shouldn't pussyfoot around. We (NATO) should move tens of thousands of troops into West Ukraine. This will give a massive confidence and support to the Ukrainian army to finish the Russians off once and for all in East Ukraine after which retaking Crimea will be the objective

It will only be a matter of time. Definitely if the Ukraine splits then Troops will be sent. It is already on the table.

 

[Yarrgh]

We shouldn't pussyfoot around. We (NATO) should move tens of thousands of troops into West Ukraine. This will give a massive confidence and support to the Ukrainian army to finish the Russians off once and for all in East Ukraine after which retaking Crimea will be the objective

Why? It's not in NATO's remit to go fight other countries war. None of the cry-arsing from arm chair war-mongers is going to change that.

 

[Bluerover]

Lets see... European HQs of
Meta, google, Apple, paypal, airbnb, microsoft, twitter, eBay, linkedin to name but a few.

They would be quite capable of hacking from Moscow I believe. However, the southside of Dublin is a nice place to live.

 

[wm02]

Just curious: How long does everyone think this war will last? And what do you think will be the end result?

 

[Bluerover]

Russia finding it very tough. Seems like poor morale in many troops. Even if they manage to take over they will face massive guerrilla warfare from Ukrainians for years.

 

[Terrarian]

The nuclear weapons are doing their job already really, they are a deterrent and the whole reason why NATO doesn't want to get involved and rightly so as frustrating as it is because Putin is mad enough to use them and nobody seems prepared to stop him. If nukes were not a threat, I'd imagine this war would have been stamped on by now.

Putin is taking full advantage of the nuclear threat, it sucks but what else can NATO do, obliterate half the planet by going in?

 

[Yarrgh]

Just curious: How long does everyone think this war will last? And what do you think will be the end result?

My prediction.

Lughansk and Donetsk independent and then to join Russia. Crimea to be Russian without claim from Ukraine. Russia to control land corridor to Crimea as an official neutral zone.

Rest of Ukraine to remain independent but outside of NATO. It will be able to join EU but as it's a million miles from joining this will remain a pipe dream for a long time. No idea how the military situation within Ukraine will be arranged but can't see anything but a non-NATO independent force being acceptable to Russia, and Ukraine would surely not allow Russia or Belarus be part of it - Baltic and neighbouring states peacekeepers maybe?

Sanctions lifted, gas sold and Russia to rebuild Ukraine which it will do, and potentially try to take over the country by stealth and influence.

Could happen tomorrow, could take years. Animosity and skirmishes will last for years and reignite the situation back into war. It's all down to how much we need Russian gas and/ or tolerate people starving due to taking tens of millions of tons if wheat out the global marketplace.

Have to the wait for Putin to exit before any major re-set in relationship between West and Russia.