Current Affairs Ukraine

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Death said:
It only seems that way cause I am the minority. Plenty of jokes and insults abound in here but because its an echoe chamber where everyone agrees its not seen as trolly. I disagree with Putin and his war but imagine I was pro Putin. Could I claim people are trolling me joking about Putin? People have been winding up Kev no end. In mass. He's the one banned.

I'm one of the very few in here condemning crimes against the world and humanity. From Putin and the USA and puppets and I'm getting pelters. Cause its overwhelming and I'm trying to add some light-hearted stuff into the mix the calm the mob down. So i don't go the way of Kev. But as you say that is coming of trolly so what can you do.
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Be honest with yourself for a start. ?
 
Death said:
I've said too much

Disregard that @Spadge Vernacular
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I suppose it boils down to being easy to take a position when you are remote from a situation.

Russia reinvading Ukraine is as palatable as the idea of the monarchy getting back into power in the UK and reinvading Ireland. Though I am sure if that happened you would have the same balance and humour in focusing your ire at the USA et al.
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
I suppose it boils down to being easy to take a position when you are remote from a situation.

Russia reinvading Ukraine is as palatable as the idea of the monarchy getting back into power in the UK and reinvading Ireland. Though I am sure if that happened you would have the same balance and humour in focusing your ire at the USA et al.
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Well for 800 years there was no 24/7 media coverage condemning UK. No sanctions. We got our own independence. And im happy we didn't get help from a tyrannical empire and would be today.

But my country is invaded by an empire these days anyway.. A corporate invasion where our politician bend to the whim of it's usa master. But I'll leave that digression.

I'm against war. War crimes. Emperialism from East to west. I'm not picking a side in Ukraine as War rages from the comfort of my sofa. I think its fair to condemn crimes on the world and humanity. Without being hit with an 'easy for you to say.'
 
If Ukraine don't plan to surrender in Mariupol, I hope they can somehow launch an offence to try to either secure the city or to evacuate as many as possible. The current situation there looks horrendous.
 
grandjoeblue said:
If Ukraine don't plan to surrender in Mariupol, I hope they can somehow launch an offence to try to either secure the city or to evacuate as many as possible. The current situation there looks horrendous.
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Due to it's location and the amount of territory Russia has in the area, I imagine it would be one of the most challenging places for them to fight back and retake any real amount of the city.
 
Death said:
I never justify Putin I condemn him. I have done many times.

I'm doing a new thing where I I cant take anyone seriously if they are calling and supporting USA and puppets intervention and also not pushing for the usa to be sanctioned, and overthrown just like putin.

So unless you dont I can't take you or anyone else seriously on Putin and will cease discussion on it.
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This is the Ukraine thread mate, if you want to talk about war crimes by the US, maybe worth starting a new thread?
 
Noisy noise annoys said:
Due to it's location and the amount of territory Russia has in the area, I imagine it would be one of the most challenging places for them to fight back and retake any real amount of the city.
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With that many lives at risk if there is no offensive plan surely surrender of that city should be considered?

Russia aren't going to stop and thousands of lives are at risk with limited chance of success.
 
Death said:
Well for 800 years there was no 24/7 media coverage condemning UK. No sanctions. We got our own independence. And im happy we didn't get help from a tyrannical empire and would be today.

But my country is invaded by an empire these days anyway.. A corporate invasion where our politician bend to the whim of it's usa master. But I'll leave that digression.

I'm against war. War crimes. Emperialism from East to west. I'm not picking a side in Ukraine as War rages from the comfort of my sofa. I think its fair to condemn crimes on the world and humanity. Without being hit with an 'easy for you to say.'
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I get it, you long to kiss the toe of her majesty's boot.?

Luckily for Ukrainian's they have a bit more about them than you and are not taking being invaded. They might be under the cosh from a brutal fascist state but their spirit will see them through eventually.
 
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