Current Affairs Ukraine

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It only seems that way cause I am the minority. Plenty of jokes and insults abound in here but because its an echoe chamber where everyone agrees its not seen as trolly. I disagree with Putin and his war but imagine I was pro Putin. Could I claim people are trolling me joking about Putin? People have been winding up Kev no end. In mass. He's the one banned.

I'm one of the very few in here condemning crimes against the world and humanity. From Putin and the USA and puppets and I'm getting pelters. Cause its overwhelming and I'm trying to add some light-hearted stuff into the mix the calm the mob down. So i don't go the way of Kev. But as you say that is coming of trolly so what can you do.
You aren't saying anything new here. Do you think you are the only one in the forum who understands that war and geopolitics is both complex and hypocritical--this is teenage-level righteousness. And when you do say something it is a glib, superficial editorialization that is designed to draw attention to yourself and not provide any meaningful context. Maybe text more than 5 sentences rather than write "USA bad, Putin also bad" over and over.
 
You are correct.
Is this where you now do the "All lives matter" speech?
White people being insecure about black people protesting for equality is not a mirror to expecting someone to condemn two evil empires instead of one.
 
White people being insecure about black people protesting for equality is not a mirror to expecting someone to condemn two evil empires instead of one.
You're correct, it is not.
My point was more the similarity between one major event happening which affects one group of people and people having a conversation about it, but some people fail to read the room and keep trying to make it about other people. That is the similarity I see.

It is a free forum, you feel free to post whatever you want (not that you need my permission anyway), but whenever you post in that manner, all I will see is "All lives matter" ✊?
 
You're correct, it is not.
My point was more the similarity between one major event happening which affects one group of people and people having a conversation about it, but some people fail to read the room and keep trying to make it about other people. That is the similarity I see.

It is a free forum, you feel free to post whatever you want (not that you need my permission anyway), but whenever you post in that manner, all I will see is "All lives matter" ✊?
You're lucky. I see his rafatollah guff packaged under Ukraine mass murder.
 
You aren't saying anything new here. Do you think you are the only one in the forum who understands that war and geopolitics is both complex and hypocritical--this is teenage-level righteousness. And when you do say something it is a glib, superficial editorialization that is designed to draw attention to yourself and not provide any meaningful context. Maybe text more than 5 sentences rather than write "USA bad, Putin also bad" over and over.
I articulate more than just "usa just as bad of not worse" and even though I say i condemn Russia also. People just call me pro putin and disagree on the usa and nato part. So we can't get passed that.

If you say the forum is clued in on the hypocrisy then why don't people not just agree with me. And we move forward with condemning it with sanctions put towards usa and russia. The demantalisation of both. Cause people don't agree to that. We can't get passed this basic hypocrisy.

Your saying 'yes we get it. Both bad. You think your so inlightened with your first year of college self righteous woke-ism.' But all im getting from most is. 'No we won't address both sides equally.'

We can't get passed that then I'm still stuck at level 1.
 
You're correct, it is not.
My point was more the similarity between one major event happening which affects one group of people and people having a conversation about it, but some people fail to read the room and keep trying to make it about other people. That is the similarity I see.

It is a free forum, you feel free to post whatever you want (not that you need my permission anyway), but whenever you post in that manner, all I will see is "All lives matter" ✊?
Let's hope Ukraine can do it. If not a victory in war in the immediate. Then a mass movement of the working class to get what they want through organising.
 

Alexei Navalny was sentenced to 9 years in prison in the case of "fraud" and "insulting" the court​


Poor fella
 
White people being insecure about black people protesting for equality is not a mirror to expecting someone to condemn two evil empires instead of one.
Well, at present one evil empire is doing pretty good at protecting a smaller country from another evil empire. So one evil empire is doing a little more than the other.

I articulate more than just "usa just as bad of not worse" and even though I say i condemn Russia also. People just call me pro putin and disagree on the usa and nato part. So we can't get passed that.

If you say the forum is clued in on the hypocrisy then why don't people not just agree with me. And we move forward with condemning it with sanctions put towards usa and russia. The demantalisation of both. Cause people don't agree to that. We can't get passed this basic hypocrisy.

Your saying 'yes we get it. Both bad. You think your so inlightened with your first year of college self righteous woke-ism.' But all im getting from most is. 'No we won't address both sides equally.'

We can't get passed that then I'm still stuck at level 1.
The USA has acted inhumanely in invading Iraq based on a lie and its continued drone attacks that kill innocent civilians under several presidential administrations, among other things. It's not difficult for me to recognize that.
 
Let's hope Ukraine can do it. If not a victory in war in the immediate. Then a mass movement of the working class to get what they want through organising.

If they (Ukraine) survive this, I think that’s happening anyway - as we saw here after 1945, you can’t arm most of the population, get them to suffer, fight, bleed and struggle together and then go back to the old ways where the rich run the shop and everyone else queues outside the dock gates waiting to be given work.
 
Well, at present one evil empire is doing pretty good at protecting a smaller country from another evil empire. So one evil empire is doing a little more than the other.


The USA has acted inhumanely in invading Iraq based on a lie and its continued drone attacks that kill innocent civilians under several presidential administrations, among other things. It's not difficult for me to recognize that.
yea, not sure quite what people expect of America here. Caught in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' kinda situation.
In my opinion, this is one thread where there is no justification for criticizing the US or NATO.
I'm no fan of massive military institutions of any kind but I think this war has brought the need for NATO in to sharp focus.
I also think it's quite naive to differentiate the UK or in @Deaths case, Ireland, from the US.
 
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