Current Affairs Ukraine

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

But we are sending them in already.

Seem like so many people aren't paying much attention. Or live in a alternate universe were Tiny Tim is the figurehead.

 

[davmaher]

So tell me, how would a single Estonian (or Slovakian or Pole) being killed diminish the risk faced by NATO countries? Yet seemingly that is all it would take for the situation to materially change and NATO to go in en masse. All while schools, hospitals, and goodness knows what else is being bombed to crap in Ukraine.

The countries you mention are all members of NATO. Ukraine is not. If Ukraine were in NATO they would be getting military support. But they aren't. I'm sure you must realise this. It is not a difficult concept. NATO are worried that if they provide military support to Ukraine in the form of troops on the ground they will bring about an escalation in hostilities. I think this is true as I have said in earlier posts. Would you think it worthwhile for NATO to send in troops, have Putin respond with chemical and/or tactical nuclear weapons and see hundreds of thousands die and the risk of further escalation?

 

[Frenk]

Seem like so many people aren't paying much attention. Or live in a alternate universe were Tiny Tim is the figurehead.

I agree when I see some of these tweets.

 

[Toffeeslam]

To all the skeptics on here. It is pretty clear at some point Putin will use chemical weapons and NATO will have boots on the ground.

He(Putin) is a ranting maniac. You can't convince him anything when he lives in a Ivory tower/Mums basement.

It would have to be something like an attack a NATO country to get NATO involved tbh.

NATO seems to be tripping itself up trying not to get involved in this war militarily so even the use of chemical weapons won’t change that other than more sanctions.

Whether NATO does get involved is purely on Russia or Putin doing something stupid like attacking Poland or Estonia and if that happens we should all be worried.

But in the context of Ukraine NATO has no legal obligation or it seems will to get involved. The longer this goes on the more likely the Ukrainians will win as they have a supply on high tech weapons from the west and this is costing thousands of Russian lives and billions a day.

No way Russia can stay and occupy Ukraine long term that myth has been smashed by Ukrainian resistance

 

[davmaher]

I understand this, but the U.S is already sending military equipment in the form of:

• 800 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
• 2,000 Javelin, 1,000 light anti-armor weapons, and 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems;
• 100 Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• 100 grenade launchers, 5,000 rifles, 1,000 pistols, 400 machine guns, and 400 shotguns;
• Over 20 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenade launcher and mortar rounds;
• 25,000 sets of body armor; and
• 25,000 helmets

That’s just the U.S. I’m sure others are too. Surely this would escalate things? If we don’t react when evil doers take hostage of the world what is the point in NATO or the U.N?

Isn’t there a humanitarian crisis going on here? Aren’t we supposed to in and help? A peace keeping force?

It should be more for the UN than NATO. NATO exists to support its members. The UN is supposed to be to support all members. On the point of military equipment, this does not seem to be escalating the situation in Ukraine and has been done by both Western countries and Russia for many years in other conflicts, particularly during the Cold war when there were several proxy wars fought by the US and russia primarily.

 

[BrendanGOT]

But we are sending them in already.

I'm assuming it means "further" and the switchblade drones which haven't been sent in previously AFAIK

 

[bluebud]

He invites any Russians thinking of coming to Ukraine to come to their resort, plenty of Javalins for all.

 

[Frenk]

It should be more for the UN than NATO. NATO exists to support its members. The UN is supposed to be to support all members. On the point of military equipment, this does not seem to be escalating the situation in Ukraine and has been done by both Western countries and Russia for many years in other conflicts, particularly during the Cold war when there were several proxy wars fought by the US and russia primarily.

Agree. But the individual countries of NATO have the ability to do things on an individual basis. The US for example. Why do some of them act while others hide under the NATO blanket. Nothing as I am aware prevents them from acting on an individual basis. On the UN well let’s just say they like to discuss things, but we all know the saying about actions.

 

[Frenk]

I'm assuming it means "further" and the switchblade drones which haven't been sent in previously AFAIK

I think we are probably still sending in stuff now. You know in the dead of night…

 

[bluebud]

Another “destabilised ” Russian helo

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Frenk]

Another “destabilised ” Russian helo

It’s weird I want to stick my finger up on posts like this. Not at the actual posts, but as a response to the Russians.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Maybe related to this. Somethings going down in Moscow.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Horrendous figures if true